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So playing at empire. Really in control of the table and sat withabout£1200. Villain has sat down about 3 hands ago. Wearing a suit and is about 30 years old. I stereotype him as someone who will be looking to play big pots. Anyway....

Villain1 limps
Suit make its £12 playing £300
folded round
hero on button makes it £38 with  Qs Ks
Villain 1 folds
suit calls

Flop  Ts 7s 2d

villain bets £50
Hero shoves....

Fine? Or flat and see a turn?

Depends whether you like to gamble, he's clearly not folding.
Pretty much flipping vs everything unless he has a set and your still 26% then.

Was it double straddled? 38pre? Go all in now either way, if the turn is a spade it might scare him, if the turn is os2 ur equity has halved when ur getting it in

Oh yeah and he might fold. Not often probs but great result when he does

He made it £12. Its not that clear in zee text. Will amend

he's moved all in andy, doubt he's folding now lol

I'm never going to run the maths on this because I will never fold in a million years here lol, I just dont.

Im not folding obviously. Im just wondering if there is any case to flat his bet.

OH hang on....

I thought you'd bet £50 and he'd shoved.

nah, protect your equity and get it in imo, him donking makes it way less likely he has the nut flush draw than if he jams over you, which is lovely

yeh jamm never flat imo

Is this a good hand to 3-bet?

Cool I figured as much. At the time I was thinking even if I get it in and im beat its a lot better than flatting and a complete scare card drops that makes my hand but means i dont get paid. Even worse would be if i blanked obv.

On a side note he tank called with Jacks I turned zee nuts and to rub it in he binked a set on river.

As im saying the letter N of nuts. He fist pumps and shouts come on at the river.

Buddy was pretty devo!

I normally 3bet this hand. I thought it was a no brainer but feel free to share

its an excellent hand to 3bet, it;

a) plays good against opening ranges (when they peel)
b) plays fine against 4bets if you're deep enough
c) can make royals with it.

Don't you end up dominated by AQ, AK a lot? Nobody is peeling 3 bets with KT.

Would play in different games if thats the case!

KQ sooooooooooooooted tho!

Excellent preflop hand, can flop straights, flushes, quads etc

I believe the flop has two of your suit and someone has donk bet into you. I would elect to wager all of my chips

they peel AQ and what happens on a  5d 9d Ts flop?

they peel  8h 8h and what happens on a Ac Jh 4d flop


OH and this also

almost every hand unless it's Aces will be dominated by another part of the opponents range, this should not deter us from playing them aggressively otherwise we'd have to limp call every hand that isn't AA and occasionally go nutso with KK

KQo is a more excellent hand to 3bet whilst KQs is more suited to a call.

Discuss.

Note: not saying that KQs 3bet isn't abs fine ofc, it is...but we should be happier to 3b or fold (lol) KQo than KQs, right?

KQs is going to play so well vs a 'standard' live player in pos in an inflated pot.. and also comes with that lovely benefit of 'if' we make a few spades we can get a big pot going with the hope for a call and get there.. or he just gives us some moneyz.

The KQs vs KQo discussion will be interesting and I agree that KQo needs to be 3bt more often but I'm probably doing it most of the time with both, especially in the empire where the average opponent fitting this discription will not be amazing at the game and until we have reason to play differently, surely this is in our 'default preflop strategy' vs the average opponent.


Also, when they have the A and the Q or K we are going to find it easier to win when they miss and much easier to control when we/ they hit.

PS Errrrr two soooted pictcha's innit..

Plussage 1. Nobody raise/folds live ever. He'll be calling pre and folding flop a ton, our hand blocks so many hands he can 4b which makes KQ great for it. It's gonna be profitable long term no dizzle.

no, not imo.

KQo is a WORSE hand to flat with than KQs - therefore making it a better hand to 3bet/fold.

this doesn't make it a better hand to 3bet.

You call the floor and their hand is dead