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Title: Unload the final barrel?
Post by: cambridgealex on January 13, 2012, 02:27:45 PM
Preflop: Hero is UTG with    Qs Js
Hero raises to $7.00, 1 fold, Redmond100 calls $7.00, sofiani calls $7.00, 1 fold
 
Flop: ($23.00)  Tc 6s 4h  (3 players)
sofiani checks, Hero bets $13.00, Redmond100 calls $13.00, sofiani calls $13.00
 
Turn: ($62.00)   Aspades    (3 players)
sofiani checks, Hero bets $41.00, Redmond100 calls $41.00, 1 fold
 
River: ($144.00)  5d     (2 players)

Hero? Villain has $207 back.

What does he have ott? Tx spades, Ax flop float? 57? Can't call with any of these otr? My line is super strong, who shoves here?

Villain is 22/17/6 and as a fold to cbet of 45


Title: Re: Unload the final barrel?
Post by: George2Loose on January 13, 2012, 02:44:32 PM
Fold. He has the nuts


Title: Re: Unload the final barrel?
Post by: Pugwashed on January 13, 2012, 04:02:31 PM
Not sure what kind of 3betting dynamic you have with the villain but it seems like he can still have AK/AQ (tho peeling the flop with these seems less likely with a player behind but you did bet kinda small),  7s 8s/ 8s 9s/ 9s Ts, maybe AT, maybe  Ac 4c, all sets get slow played almost always on this run out as you barrel so much and with it being such a dry flop and 3way to flop.

I think its a check/fold, especially as villain might expect you to be 3barrelling a lot on this board


Title: Re: Unload the final barrel?
Post by: Honeybadger on January 13, 2012, 06:29:19 PM
Giving up on the river is best here. If turn had come one of 9s 9c 9h 9d 8s 7s 5s 3s 2s then you should generally barrel the river too. But on a turned Aspades or Ks (or any A/K for that matter) barreling the turn and giving up on the river is good.


Title: Re: Unload the final barrel?
Post by: Bully87 on January 13, 2012, 06:32:53 PM
fold to cbet of 45

Probably save the final barrel.
His fold to cbet shows he will peel flops a lot, usually resulting in high fold to turn bet (obviously I'm just making some assumptions here), which he hasn't, so at this point I'd be fairly sure your not going to get him to fold anything that flats twice on this kind of board.
My guess is a set.
Would be interested to see his fold to turn cbet stat, providing it's a decent sample.


Title: Re: Unload the final barrel?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 15, 2012, 10:38:40 AM
soooooooo tempting to give him the gravy here but the turn does "thin" your range out a little and once he calls the river it just feels like he has the sherriff's hat on and he's not taking it off.

Admittedly, you do want to be bluffing here some % of the time - or at least have SOME SORT of bluffing range vs a decent reg, but I think I'd pick a spot where the turned A/K doesn't thin your perceived value range as much and I'd also start getting some JJ-KK value bets in these spots AND DEFO snap noting that you've done it afterwards - this will make your bluffs a bit easier in this spot


Title: Re: Unload the final barrel?
Post by: Patonius2000 on January 15, 2012, 11:30:47 AM
Turn is good/standard, c/f now.


Title: Re: Unload the final barrel?
Post by: cambridgealex on January 15, 2012, 12:10:03 PM
i shoved, thought I rep all sets/ two pairs/ AK, pretty solidly. didn't see what he could call me with...

except 7d 8d :(

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Title: Re: Unload the final barrel?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 15, 2012, 12:28:47 PM
i shoved, thought I rep all sets/ two pairs/ AK, pretty solidly. didn't see what he could call me with...

except 7d 8d :(

SNAPPPPPPPPPP

oh no. I think he's made quite a poor turn call there