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Title: rate my cv
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2012, 12:17:19 PM
Professional Profile
An enthusiastic, dedicated and highly numeric Business Studies graduate, with excellent accounting, IT and business analysis skills. Combining excellent commercial awareness with strong leadership and organization skills, demonstrated both in and outside of work. A self-starter who enjoys being part of a successful and productive team, contributing initiative, motivation and organisation to meet tight deadlines. A consistently high performer and positive influence, adopting an analytical and methodical approach to tasks. Utilises excellent interpersonal skills to cultivate beneficial working relationships and can communicate concisely at all levels.

Education and Qualifications

Lincoln College AAT Diploma(September 2010 - present)
Modules include:
Accounts Prep 1 + 2
Basic Accounting 1 + 2
Working Effectively in Accounting and Finance
Cost and Revenue
Computerised Accounts + Spreadsheets
Professional Ethics in Accounting and Finance

Leeds business school, Leeds metropolitan university 2004-2007
BA hons Business studies 2nd class honours
Modules                        Grade (%)
Managing data information                  94
Economic awareness                     65
Information system development               65
Quantitative analysis and business planning            64
Client consultancy project                  63         
Managerial finance                     58
Business accounting                     57
Business decision analysis                  56   

Lincoln Christ’s Hospital School (1997-2004)
Level      Subject                  Grade
A Level   Mathematics                  C
AVCE       ICT                     C
GCSE      10 subjects, including Mathematics & English   A-C



Employment History
June 2011 – Present      Hodgson Elkington, Lincoln
            Accounts Assistant
Daily tasks include
•   Accountable for processing high volumes of data and making sure they are allocated/unsettled correctly 
•   Weekly and monthly payment runs through bankline and issuing cheques where necessary
•   Compiling end of year/quarterly service charge accounts with VAT reconciliations
•   General accounts admin work which includes mail, filing and queries from suppliers and customers

Jan 2010 – Dec 2010    ENGLISH TEACHER, HONG KONG
•   Teaching students to improve their English writing and speaking ability. With the aim of developing the four basic language skills of listening, speaking, reading and writing of the learners
•   Creating imaginative lessons schedules which include art, dance and music
•   Supervising children and responding to their needs at all times

2008-2010      MAN HO CHINESE TAKEAWAY, LINCOLN
         Assistant Manager
•   Accountable for skilled management of day to day operations, with responsibility for business development, stock control, customer service and staff supervision
•   Driving high standards across the team to deliver outstanding customer service and a professional image at all times
•   Maximising productivity through recruitment, training and development of staff, with a high emphasis on providing a positive customer experience
•   Raising the profile of the takeaway in the local area by leading a number of promotional and marketing initiatives, resulting in significant increase in regular custom
•   Demonstrating integrity and responsibility in Epos management and cash-handling, as well as in opening and closing the store on occasion

Key I.T. Skills
I am computer literate and can use the following programmes
•   Word
•   Excel (competent)
•   PowerPoint
•   Sage (basic)

Personal Details
Languages:      Fluent English & Cantonese
Health:       Excellent; non-smoker
Other:       Driver
 

REFERENCES ARE AVAILABLE ON REQUEST


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2012, 12:18:58 PM
looking for a new job but i havent done a cv for a while.

copied theprofessional profile of mate

i didnt teach english in hk
Some bits are true some or not
it fits two pages exactly

but its font size 11


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: bobAlike on January 15, 2012, 12:42:48 PM
The first paragraph says the right things but it sounds like you're talking about someone else. You need to personalise it a bit more.

Change programmes for programs or preferably applications.

Everything else looks ok to me


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2012, 12:47:05 PM
I'm not that good at English I Had to retake it to get a c


How do I make it more personal


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: leethefish on January 15, 2012, 12:52:17 PM
looking for a new job but i havent done a cv for a while.

copied theprofessional profile of mate

i didnt teach english in hkSome bits are true some or not
it fits two pages exactly

but its font size 11
was gonna offer you a job......... but now i know this is a lie sorry but you arnt quite what i am looking for.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Woodsey on January 15, 2012, 12:53:35 PM
Did you even work at the family takeaway? Or are those 2 jobs just to fill in the 'gaps'?  :D


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Claw75 on January 15, 2012, 01:00:29 PM
are you looking for feedback on just the content (which I know nothing about) or the way it's written too?  there's a few bits i'd feel inclined to take a red pen to to make it read better and happy to send you a revised version via pm if that's the kind of help you want.

one thing that leapt out right at the start and not sure if it's ok or not, but looks weird - would someone describe themselves as 'numerical' rather than 'numerate'?

also not sure it's necessary to list all the modules and grades from your degree?


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Jon MW on January 15, 2012, 01:19:09 PM
...
also not sure it's necessary to list all the modules and grades from your degree?

That was the first thing that stood out for me. If the exact contents of what you've studied matters then it'll be asked about in an interview.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: kinboshi on January 15, 2012, 01:21:58 PM

I'd put experience before educational history.

Also focus on what you achieved in your work, not what the role entailed. I'd also put it into the past tense.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: doubleup on January 15, 2012, 01:30:45 PM
I would put work experience before qualifications (maybe cos I'm older....).  If someone is looking at a CV they are prob going to look at the first para (which should be shorter imo) and what you are doing now and then make up my mind whether I can be bothered looking any further, so getting these two spot on is important.  Also you can tweak the first para and the details of present job depending on what job you are going for.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: MANTIS01 on January 15, 2012, 02:08:24 PM
Good advice so far. The first para looks like generic fluff you could have cut and pasted from a mate's cv and will bore the interviewer to death as he trawls through 100's of CV's. Eg I would expect a business graduate to be numeric. It has to be more dynamic and personal. The first sentence could be - A bi-lingual business graduate with proven management ability and accountancy experience. All your major attributes are included straight away and grabs the attention of anybody seeking those skills. Definitely employment history first (including who Hodgson Elkington actually are) and deffo lose the laborious individual modules and replace with an expanded personal achievement/motivation section that seperates you from every other business grad. All I know about Paul Ho the person is he drives and doesn't smoke.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2012, 04:33:11 PM
looking for a new job but i havent done a cv for a while.

copied theprofessional profile of mate

i didnt teach english in hkSome bits are true some or not
it fits two pages exactly

but its font size 11
was gonna offer you a job......... but now i know this is a lie sorry but you arnt quite what i am looking for.

pretty sure everyone lies on their cv and bull shit alot


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2012, 04:34:11 PM
Did you even work at the family takeaway? Or are those 2 jobs just to fill in the 'gaps'?  :D

worked for takeaway

not teaching in hk

I was bumming around playing poker and working part time ahhhhhh the fun times


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2012, 04:36:49 PM
thanks for the advice guys

I will redo one and post it on here


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: pleno1 on January 15, 2012, 04:37:43 PM
i did well at school, mostly all A's, I was wondering why people ever mention GCSE/Alevel results when they are avaerage, putting yourself forward as an A star student is better than an average student at school right? I mean if you want to be completely honest then cool, good on you, but if you are already lying about the teaching etc then i don't really get it.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2012, 04:38:40 PM
are you looking for feedback on just the content (which I know nothing about) or the way it's written too?  there's a few bits i'd feel inclined to take a red pen to to make it read better and happy to send you a revised version via pm if that's the kind of help you want.

one thing that leapt out right at the start and not sure if it's ok or not, but looks weird - would someone describe themselves as 'numerical' rather than 'numerate'?

also not sure it's necessary to list all the modules and grades from your degree?

just some constructive criticisms on the cv overall

if you could do that claw that will be great thanks


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2012, 04:39:46 PM
i did well at school, mostly all A's, I was wondering why people ever mention GCSE/Alevel results when they are avaerage, putting yourself forward as an A star student is better than an average student at school right? I mean if you want to be completely honest then cool, good on you, but if you are already lying about the teaching etc then i don't really get it.

i cant prove i got A at gcse

but i can prove that i teached in hk


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: mulhuzz on January 15, 2012, 05:17:00 PM
as a hiring manager of some years experience, here's my feedback:

1. I don't care about what individual marks you got in modules at Uni. Just the degree title and result, with perhaps a specialisation or key module mentioned. Similarly, for the AAT course, just the dates and results so far, expected completion date.

2. Put experience before academic stuff.

3. Nobody cares that you don't smoke, admirable as it is ;) Indeed, neither do they care about your general health! Since companies aren't allowed (by law) to discriminate on that basis anyway, they won't even read it and you can be more economical with your space.

4. The first personal statement is very bland and says exactly what every other personal statement says. Make it personal and stand out because right now the hiring manager will think 'cool, another ambitious self starter who communicates well, claims to be a leader but doesn't demonstrate this in his job history, and has good organization skills. awesome, sure didn't see 10 of those this week already'. I can help with this if you like.

5. in the job roles, talk about what you learned and things you achieved rather than what your tasks were. Imagine you were applying to be a striker for Man Utd. If you say 'Lincoln FC, Striker: My duties were to be a striker and score goals, going to training to improve' then Sir Alex is never giving you the job, but you might have a shout if you say 'Striker, Lincoln FC: I played 55 games and scored 38 goals, including three hattricks. In doing so, I broke the all time goals in one season record for the club and helped us get promoted to Division 1. Through my hard work in training, I'm now recognised as the player with the best overhead kick in the top 2 divisions by a number of industry experts, including Paul Jones the manager of Randomtown FC and Bill Smith, respected football journalist.'

6. Don't lie. You might just walk into someone with a good BS detector. Honesty really is the best policy.

7. Defo numerate and not numerical - you're not a value described by a number, but good with numbers, so numerate ;)


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: gatso on January 15, 2012, 05:35:23 PM
if you're going to lie on your cv then don't post it on a public forum using your real name and tell everyone exactly what bits are lies. most employers nowadays have access to computers with internet, google etc.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Longy on January 15, 2012, 06:23:04 PM
if you're going to lie on your cv then don't post it on a public forum using your real name and tell everyone exactly what bits are lies. most employers nowadays have access to computers with internet, google etc.

So Paul needs to delete about 3000 posts on this forum, if not his whole account by that logic.

My life plan is never to have a cv, so can't help you out Paul!


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: EvilPie on January 15, 2012, 06:31:25 PM
What sort of job are you going for? You need to make your CV relevant to whatever you're looking for.

Also I wouldn't recommend lying. The following statements could catch you out:

'Creating imaginative lessons schedules which include art, dance and music'
 
'Supervising children and responding to their needs at all times'

What's your plan if you make it to an interview and someone asks you about this. They'll smell the bullshit a mile off.

Just stick to the truth.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Simon Galloway on January 15, 2012, 06:39:40 PM
More dynamic!

Don't have it reading as "sat there swinging my legs waiting for the next email to arrive"

DELIVERED 20% cost savings on x

INCREASED turn around times by 30%

ENHANCED .... by ...

SOLVED ... doing ...

DOCUMENTED .... y ....

Unless you are going for a job driving a van, being a driver prolly not reqd.

Para at the start, an overview of what you bring and what you want to do

Then your (dynamic) work history

Then your highest qualifications (and current study)

Prepare a 1-page as your standard and have a 2-page version fleshed out on standby.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Free_Rollin on January 15, 2012, 06:43:48 PM
What job are you going for?

Since you haven't had any significant experience, qualifications do usually go before experience.

I'd agree honesty is definitely the way to go. I got called into the HR department of an extremely large bank because they coudln't track down my records with a door-to-door windows sales company. It turns out they stored it under Sunny rather than Gurpreet, but it goes to show they do check.

Also are 2-page CVs standard? I know in finance that a one page CV is super standard, especially when going for graduate/entry positions. A lot of your stuff can be cut down.

Also do you have any achievements?


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2012, 06:48:23 PM
What job are you going for?

Since you haven't had any significant experience, qualifications do usually go before experience.

I'd agree honesty is definitely the way to go. I got called into the HR department of an extremely large bank because they coudln't track down my records with a door-to-door windows sales company. It turns out they stored it under Sunny rather than Gurpreet, but it goes to show they do check.

Also are 2-page CVs standard? I know in finance that a one page CV is super standard, especially when going for graduate/entry positions. A lot of your stuff can be cut down.

Also do you have any achievements?

accounts based roll something low to start with like accounts assistant or trainee accountant

no major achievements that i can think of
passed my degree?


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: EvilPie on January 15, 2012, 07:01:48 PM
Try to keep it to one page if you can. This may help.



Education and Qualifications

Lincoln College AAT Diploma(September 2010 - present)            I assume this is some kind of accounting course therefore relevant. Modules don't matter at early stages.
Modules include:
Accounts Prep 1 + 2
Basic Accounting 1 + 2
Working Effectively in Accounting and Finance
Cost and Revenue
Computerised Accounts + Spreadsheets
Professional Ethics in Accounting and Finance


Leeds business school, Leeds metropolitan university 2004-2007               Degree obviously important. Modules and %'s pretty much irrelevant at early stages.
BA hons Business studies 2nd class honours
Modules                        Grade (%)
Managing data information                  94
Economic awareness                     65
Information system development               65
Quantitative analysis and business planning            64
Client consultancy project                  63         
Managerial finance                     58
Business accounting                     57
Business decision analysis                  56   

Lincoln Christ’s Hospital School (1997-2004)
Level      Subject                  Grade
A Level   Mathematics                  C
AVCE       ICT                     C
GCSE      10 subjects, including Mathematics & English   A-C
                    Nobody cares what you did at school once you get past 20 unless school is all you have.



Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: EvilPie on January 15, 2012, 07:03:49 PM
Scrap the lying bit about teaching in HK. A better lie to fill the year would be to say you had a gap year and traveled. Nobody will see that as a bad thing.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: mulhuzz on January 15, 2012, 07:05:34 PM
also massively agree that two pages is too much.

i only allowed myself a two page CV once I had 5 years experience.

I also only listed A Level results because they show I got languages in my locker, but then I just realised I could list languages separately so got rid of those, except to say that I have them at grades wxyz. GCSEs aren't even mentioned.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: mulhuzz on January 15, 2012, 07:06:31 PM
Scrap the lying bit about teaching in HK. A better lie to fill the year would be to say you had a gap year and traveled. Nobody will see that as a bad thing.

depends. if you just went and sat on a beach I think 'meh'.

if you can tell me some things about the places you visited etc and a bit about the cultures and what you learned from it, i'll listen.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Jon MW on January 15, 2012, 07:08:26 PM
Scrap the lying bit about teaching in HK. A better lie to fill the year would be to say you had a gap year and traveled. Nobody will see that as a bad thing.

depends. if you just went and sat on a beach I think 'meh'.

if you can tell me some things about the places you visited etc and a bit about the cultures and what you learned from it, i'll listen.

agreed - saying you travelled is a good thing, but only if you can back it up if it comes up in your interview


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2012, 07:10:13 PM
Try to keep it to one page if you can. This may help.



Education and Qualifications

Lincoln College AAT Diploma(September 2010 - present)            I assume this is some kind of accounting course therefore relevant. Modules don't matter at early stages.
Modules include:
Accounts Prep 1 + 2
Basic Accounting 1 +
Working Effectively in Accounting and Finance
Cost and Revenue
Computerised Accounts + Spreadsheets
Professional Ethics in Accounting and Finance


Leeds business school, Leeds metropolitan university 2004-2007               Degree obviously important. Modules and %'s pretty much irrelevant at early stages.
BA hons Business studies 2nd class honours
Modules                        Grade (%)
Managing data information                  94
Economic awareness                     65
Information system development               65
Quantitative analysis and business planning            64
Client consultancy project                  63         
Managerial finance                     58
Business accounting                     57
Business decision analysis                  56   

Lincoln Christ’s Hospital School (1997-2004)
Level      Subject                  Grade
A Level   Mathematics                  C
AVCE       ICT                     C
GCSE      10 subjects, including Mathematics & English   A-C
                    Nobody cares what you did at school once you get past 20 unless school is all you have.



shall i just list what i did for my education?

or say some shit about working in small multi cultural teams working under pressure and tight deadlines? and need to priortise tasks


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2012, 07:23:17 PM
is printing on coloured paper a nono?


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: EvilPie on January 15, 2012, 07:26:43 PM
is printing on coloured paper a nono?

No this would be brilliant. If you can dot your i's with little hearts that'll also help immensely.

I'm lying here Paul. White or slightly off white paper is best but make sure it's good quality paper.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: mulhuzz on January 15, 2012, 07:28:54 PM
is printing on coloured paper a nono?

for an accountancy role, yes.

for a creative design role, i'd say it's almost a mandatory thing to do.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: anthonyl on January 15, 2012, 07:30:45 PM
Only looked at page 1 of the thread.

- delete uni grade marks, just have the actual overall grade, and a summary of modules perhaps
- opening paragraph needs to have a bit more focus on what career you want
- you need something about personal interests too

My CV is pretty decent if you want to look @ that



Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: anthonyl on January 15, 2012, 07:35:05 PM
ohhhh gl with that accounting career, just done my final ACCA exams wiiiiiiiiiii


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: mulhuzz on January 15, 2012, 07:36:21 PM
seems like a very good offer to look at CV from someone a few years ahead of you in the same industry btw.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Solaris on January 15, 2012, 07:50:02 PM
Would be interested in opinions but for the education section I did the following in my CV:

EDUCATION AND QUALIFICATIONS:
2005-2007   Chelmsford College, Chelmsford, Essex
      3 A Levels gained – Law, Psychology, Business Studies

1999–2004   The Boswells Secondary School, Chelmsford, Essex
      9 A – C graded GCSE's gained with a B in Math’s and English and a
      GNVQ in ICT

Would have added a degree section above my college education, but I was a University drop out.  ;ashamed;

I believe doing it in that sort of format is more than sufficient because as I understand it most employer's don't want the heavy education detail as it's something they can chat to you about in person; just simply list your achievements in a short and concise format that is clear and easy to understand.

Also agree with Kinboshi that you need to detail your achievements in the work place far more than what the actual role entailed.

Also, if you want, if you send me your CV I will happily pass it onto a friend of mine who works in recruitment. He see's thousands of CV's and would be able to give detailed feedback. Completely up to you, but the offer is there.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: gatso on January 15, 2012, 07:51:31 PM
1999–2004   The Boswells Secondary School, Chelmsford, Essex
      9 A – C graded GCSE's gained with a B in Math’s and English and a
      GNVQ in ICT

don't claim to have a qualification in english but in the same sentence write 'math's'


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: anthonyl on January 15, 2012, 07:52:47 PM
Would be interested in opinions but for the education section I did the following in my CV:

EDUCATION AND QUALIFICATIONS:
2005-2007   Chelmsford College, Chelmsford, Essex
   


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Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Solaris on January 15, 2012, 07:53:12 PM
1999–2004   The Boswells Secondary School, Chelmsford, Essex
      9 A – C graded GCSE's gained with a B in Math’s and English and a
      GNVQ in ICT

don't claim to have a qualification in english but in the same sentence write 'math's'

My mistake yo. That's not my latest CV though, was just the first I could find and merely an example! Thanks though Gatso, always nice to get owned.  :D


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: gatso on January 15, 2012, 07:57:35 PM
lol, always a pleasure

there was a serious point behind my post though. any cv with something like that in would probably be instabinned. proofreading is really important


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Solaris on January 15, 2012, 07:58:35 PM
Would be interested in opinions but for the education section I did the following in my CV:

EDUCATION AND QUALIFICATIONS:
2005-2007   Chelmsford College, Chelmsford, Essex
   


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Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: anthonyl on January 15, 2012, 07:59:09 PM
Closed down now, FOL


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Free_Rollin on January 15, 2012, 09:48:09 PM
Try to keep it to one page if you can. This may help.



Education and Qualifications

Lincoln College AAT Diploma(September 2010 - present)           I assume this is some kind of accounting course therefore relevant. Modules don't matter at early stages.
Modules include:
Accounts Prep 1 + 2
Basic Accounting 1 +
Working Effectively in Accounting and Finance
Cost and Revenue
Computerised Accounts + Spreadsheets
Professional Ethics in Accounting and Finance


Leeds business school, Leeds metropolitan university 2004-2007               Degree obviously important. Modules and %'s pretty much irrelevant at early stages.
BA hons Business studies 2nd class honours
Modules                        Grade (%)
Managing data information                  94
Economic awareness                     65
Information system development               65
Quantitative analysis and business planning            64
Client consultancy project                  63         
Managerial finance                     58
Business accounting                     57
Business decision analysis                  56   

Lincoln Christ’s Hospital School (1997-2004)
Level      Subject                  Grade
A Level   Mathematics                  C
AVCE       ICT                     C
GCSE      10 subjects, including Mathematics & English   A-C
                   Nobody cares what you did at school once you get past 20 unless school is all you have.



shall i just list what i did for my education?

or say some shit about working in small multi cultural teams working under pressure and tight deadlines? and need to priortise tasks

Imo, A-Levels and GCSE's are important at the moment. When you come out of uni, these are often used as a filter. I would say these, and possibly even degree, are irrelevant after your 3rd job in the industry.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: mulhuzz on January 16, 2012, 02:32:31 AM
Would be interested in opinions but for the education section I did the following in my CV:

EDUCATION AND QUALIFICATIONS:
2005-2007   Chelmsford College, Chelmsford, Essex
      3 A Levels gained – Law, Psychology, Business Studies

1999–2004   The Boswells Secondary School, Chelmsford, Essex
      9 A – C graded GCSE's gained with a B in Math’s and English and a
      GNVQ in ICT

Would have added a degree section above my college education, but I was a University drop out.  ;ashamed;

I believe doing it in that sort of format is more than sufficient because as I understand it most employer's don't want the heavy education detail as it's something they can chat to you about in person; just simply list your achievements in a short and concise format that is clear and easy to understand.

Also agree with Kinboshi that you need to detail your achievements in the work place far more than what the actual role entailed.

Also, if you want, if you send me your CV I will happily pass it onto a friend of mine who works in recruitment. He see's thousands of CV's and would be able to give detailed feedback. Completely up to you, but the offer is there.

One thing that stands out for me here - you listed your results (kind of..) for GCSE but not A-Level. This would lead me to believe you have crap A-Level results. Either list both or neither imo.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Solaris on January 16, 2012, 02:41:56 AM

One thing that stands out for me here - you listed your results (kind of..) for GCSE but not A-Level. This would lead me to believe you have crap A-Level results. Either list both or neither imo.

Fair enough, as it happens I am starting a new job Wednesday, but shall bare that in mind for future use.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: mulhuzz on January 16, 2012, 02:44:42 AM

One thing that stands out for me here - you listed your results (kind of..) for GCSE but not A-Level. This would lead me to believe you have crap A-Level results. Either list both or neither imo.

Fair enough, as it happens I am starting a new job Wednesday, but shall bare that in mind for future use.

congrats!

I'm job hunting myself atm as well so I spend a lot of time thinking about CVs etc ;)


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Acidmouse on January 16, 2012, 09:16:39 AM
What is a 2nd class degree? 2:1 or Desmond tu tu?


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Free_Rollin on January 16, 2012, 10:05:39 AM
What is a 2nd class degree? 2:1 or Desmond tu tu?

Second class is split into upper second, aka 2.1, and lower second, aka 2.2.

Upper second is between 60% and 69% marks, and lower second is 50% - 59%.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Acidmouse on January 16, 2012, 10:08:12 AM
What is a 2nd class degree? 2:1 or Desmond tu tu?

Second class is split into upper second, aka 2.1, and lower second, aka 2.2.

Upper second is between 60% and 69% marks, and lower second is 50% - 59%.

I know, but what did he get? :) he says a 2nd class degree


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: millidonk on January 16, 2012, 11:18:30 AM
Generic CVs are pretty much a complete waste of time imo. Your CV should be advert and role specific. Break down the advert into bullet points then in your CV state how you can successfully fulfill these points. Research the role and display how you have the charachteristics to carry out the role.

Nobody cares about how you did at school, don't put grades in or break it up into modules. 3 A levels A-C Geog, Science, Biology and 12 GCSEs A*-C including Maths and English etc is more than enough.


Writing a proper well thought out and tailored CV should take a good few hours if not a full day.

Also use headings such as:

Professional profile
Objective
Major achievements
Career summary
Education and qualifications
Professional development 
Further skills

Also keep the formatting the same throughout.

You go June 2011 - Present
Jan 2010 - Dec 2010
2008-2010

What did you do between Dec 2010 and June 2011??

Its better to use whole years as it hides gaps in your history.

A lot of the people reading these will pick up the smallest reasons to fob you off. I did a one week CV writing and transitional skills workshop with a woman who spent 35yrs in HR, Above all she said make sure the spelling is correct. UK spelling as well.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: DungBeetle on January 16, 2012, 04:04:16 PM
I hire experienced finance people these days and my selection policy is simply to look a work experience/professional qualifications and then if I like what they have done then have a cursory glance to make sure they haven't butchered any exams, spending about 5 mins per CV.

However - if you are going for a junior role (graduate intake?) at a bank/accountancy firm then you'll likely be filling out the firm's own application form so most of this discussion is redundant.  These are pretty forumulaic once you have the hang of it, and you'll be able to re-use "winning" scenarios for the extremely dull and frankly useless questions the HR departments like to ask.  After that it will be down to selling yourself at the interview.

If you do need to send a CV I agree that at your stage of career, qualifications are more important than work experience so put them first.  At the moment you just need to show you have had some exposure to the work environment, and your current accounting experience looks plenty.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: DungBeetle on January 16, 2012, 04:08:20 PM
Try to keep it to one page if you can. This may help.



Education and Qualifications

Lincoln College AAT Diploma(September 2010 - present)           I assume this is some kind of accounting course therefore relevant. Modules don't matter at early stages.
Modules include:
Accounts Prep 1 + 2
Basic Accounting 1 +
Working Effectively in Accounting and Finance
Cost and Revenue
Computerised Accounts + Spreadsheets
Professional Ethics in Accounting and Finance


Leeds business school, Leeds metropolitan university 2004-2007               Degree obviously important. Modules and %'s pretty much irrelevant at early stages.
BA hons Business studies 2nd class honours
Modules                        Grade (%)
Managing data information                  94
Economic awareness                     65
Information system development               65
Quantitative analysis and business planning            64
Client consultancy project                  63         
Managerial finance                     58
Business accounting                     57
Business decision analysis                  56   

Lincoln Christ’s Hospital School (1997-2004)
Level      Subject                  Grade
A Level   Mathematics                  C
AVCE       ICT                     C
GCSE      10 subjects, including Mathematics & English   A-C
                   Nobody cares what you did at school once you get past 20 unless school is all you have.



shall i just list what i did for my education?

or say some shit about working in small multi cultural teams working under pressure and tight deadlines? and need to priortise tasks

Imo, A-Levels and GCSE's are important at the moment. When you come out of uni, these are often used as a filter. I would say these, and possibly even degree, are irrelevant after your 3rd job in the industry.

Absolutely - don't leave A-Levels off.  They are often better indicators of potential than degrees especially in finance.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: StuartHopkin on January 16, 2012, 04:13:14 PM
I always look at GCSE and A-Level results when looking at CV's

You can lie on your CV but never lie on an application form. We use them now as most people will lie on them, that's all good until I need to get rid of you, at which point I will check every fact I can as if anything is untrue I can instantly dismiss.

Also make sure your Facebook is private, as if you apply here I am on my way to your Facebook page to find out if I know anyone to get info, or if you come across as a complete tool.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: DungBeetle on January 16, 2012, 04:41:11 PM
"We use them now as most people will lie on them, that's all good until I need to get rid of you, at which point I will check every fact I can as if anything is untrue I can instantly dismiss."

I agree not to lie but wow that's cold!

"You've done a great job for 10 years Watkins, but seeing as we are closing your division one of my snoops has discovered that the tapestry society at the University of Sussex didn't exist in 1997 as you claim here.  As a result your contract is terminated without redundancy pay, and please also note that the fact you have been fired will invalidate that redundancy insurance policy you took out through Admiral and have been paying for the last 6 years"

 ;)


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: DungBeetle on January 16, 2012, 04:41:46 PM
Definitely agree with Facebook.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: EvilPie on January 16, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Yeah I was a bit hasty with removal of GCSE's. Given that Paul only finished there 8 years ago they're still relevant.

I don't think they all need listing though. 10 x GCSE's C and above + 3 x A-levels C and above would suffice.

Need to keep it down to 1 page if possible.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Jon MW on January 16, 2012, 05:54:30 PM
...

You can lie on your CV but never lie on an application form. We use them now as most people will lie on them, that's all good until I need to get rid of you, at which point I will check every fact I can as if anything is untrue I can instantly dismiss.

...

Isn't gross misconduct the only 'safe' reason for instant dismissal?


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: mulhuzz on January 16, 2012, 06:05:39 PM
...

You can lie on your CV but never lie on an application form. We use them now as most people will lie on them, that's all good until I need to get rid of you, at which point I will check every fact I can as if anything is untrue I can instantly dismiss.

...

Isn't gross misconduct the only 'safe' reason for instant dismissal?

what that means is generally defined by contract though, so yeah, if it says 'if you lie to us on your application form we will snap fire you' then you don't have a leg to stand on.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: ManuelsMum on January 16, 2012, 07:10:23 PM
is printing on coloured paper a nono?

You need to get laid.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: ManuelsMum on January 16, 2012, 07:17:01 PM
http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=laid+paper&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1024&bih=677&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=1505708423173484380&sa=X&ei=X3cUT6inGI2EhQe50tinAg&ved=0CJEBEPMCMAQ

Some people go for bonded.

Forget the lie too, they can sue your ass.

I agree with the point about web searches, they do this a lot now.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 16, 2012, 07:57:32 PM
is printing on coloured paper a nono?

You need to get laid.
?


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: ManuelsMum on January 16, 2012, 08:00:41 PM

It's the kind of crinkly stuff, feels a bit ribbed. I think off-white cream is ok, or white.

http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=laid+paper&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1024&bih=677&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=1505708423173484380&sa=X&ei=X3cUT6inGI2EhQe50tinAg&ved=0CJEBEPMCMAQ

Some people go for bonded.




Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: EvilPie on January 16, 2012, 10:17:23 PM
...

You can lie on your CV but never lie on an application form. We use them now as most people will lie on them, that's all good until I need to get rid of you, at which point I will check every fact I can as if anything is untrue I can instantly dismiss.

...

Isn't gross misconduct the only 'safe' reason for instant dismissal?

Hopkin doesn't do this himself. He has a highly paid team of legal eagles to do his dirty work for him so he's very 'safe'.

They tell him he's allowed to do it then he gets the pleasure of doing his Sir Alan impression.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: Lucky on January 17, 2012, 12:06:26 AM
Hi Paul,

I'm an accountancy recruiter.  London based though, so may not be able to help directly. This is the CV advice / template I give people   if they want my input.

2 definites though;

1. No lies
2. Use quantified achievements (see below) wherever possible.




FIRSTNAME  SURNAME
X  Any Street, Anytown, Postcode etc
Tel (home) xxxx xxxxxx, Tel (mobile) xxxx xxx xxx, email xxx.xxx@xxxxx.com

A (JOB TITLE) with a strong record of achieving xxxxxx and xxxx in xxxx environments / businesses, thereby maximising performance and profitability.

2005-Date   COMPANY NAME Ltd – T/o £xxx m, Cleaning & Facilities Management Business
Job Title – (xx Division) T/o xxx m
Selected to do / achieve xxxx (i.e. key / main purpose of the role).
Achievements (Nb most achievement words end in “....ed" and read well if accompanied by a quantification (e.g. increased sales by 20%).
·   Restructured the xxxxxxxxxx with emphasis on quality of output and value adding service.
·   Introduced  xxxx leading to cost reduction of x% in x months
·   Implemented xxxx that enabled significant improvements in xxx and xxxx
·   Developed competitive tendering to maximise manpower utilisation whilst balancing shareholder needs.
·   Devised reporting structures throughout the division 
·   Introduced formal procedures and presentation criteria for capital expenditure appraisal.
·   Restructured receivables control reducing debtor days by 4 and liberating £x m of extra working capital
·   Negotiated the Divisions largest contract valued at £xxx m per annum £x m achieving year on year cost savings through partnership and sharing of benefits.

2003-2005   COMPANY NAME Ltd – T/o £xxx m, xxx Business
Job Title
Recruited to raise the quality of …. (i.e. key / main purpose of the role).
·   Introduced rigour and discipline into …..
·   Negotiated an exit strategy adding £x m cash value at a time of relatively severe cash haemorrhage.
·   Devised, planned and led a £xxx ERP IT installation minimising cash flows and significantly improving business performance and visibility.
·   Led all banking relationships, satisfying banking requirements on all key covenants and giving confidence to recovery plans.

2002-2003    COMPANY NAME Ltd – T/o £xxx m, xxx Business – (part of the t/o €1.5bn xxx plc Group)
Job Title – XXX DIVISION – T/o £xx xxxx manufacturing unit
Selected to manage finance function following major capital investment, pre group-wide reorganisation.
·   Reorganised finance structure into one cohesive unit ….
·   Engaged the finance function into the xxx initiative focusing team on adding value through integration at all levels within their specific functional areas and reducing finance headcount by 15%.
·   Implemented a structure of KPI’s to monitor performance and target business improvement.
·   Relocated staff into commercial and factory areas to aid better communication & understanding of product & process flow.

2001-2002   COMPANY NAME  Ltd – T/o £xxx m,  xxx Business
Job Title
Headhunted to manage finance, HR, company secretarial, IT, Treasury and general administration.
·   Advised, presented and took financial lead for xxxx in the merger with xxx to form xxxx Group
·   Designed and implemented procedures to xxxxx   

·   Personally negotiated £x m mortgage deal for the acquisition of 5 xxx and secured a third party back-to-back sale for one site securing 100% profit.
·   Post merger successfully integrated IT, financial processes and HR and relocated offices on time and within budget.

1977-2001     Job Title – COMPANY name LTD
1972-1977     Job Title – COMPANY name LTD

QUALIFICATIONS:    Professional Qualification   (e.g. ACA) plus year 
Degree (e.g. BSc in Economics), University name plus year.

PERSONAL:   Nationality. Marital Status. No of children. Location (or state “flexible”).





CV guidance notes

·   1-2 pages maximum
·   A brief personal summary at the top  (this is your elevator statement / first impression)
·   List your job roles in reverse chronological order
·   Name /describe the company (e.g. by size / sector), so readers can identify with it
·   Add your  job Title
·   Show a one line reason for appointment / highlighting the key purpose of your role
·   List your key / most  important achievements (usually 6 or 7 for the most recent role, and progressively less detail for earlier roles)
·   Remember achievements show what  you actually did....if you only list responsibilities these are what you should have done. Achievements are much more powerful and action orientated.  Quantified achievements even more so!
·   Achievements are often described by using words ending in  ....ed and are best if quantified to make them more powerful (e.g. reduced costs by 10%, e.g. improved sales by 20%)
·   No harm in summarising early career to save space.


Title: Re: rate my cv
Post by: anthonyl on January 17, 2012, 08:15:00 PM
Hi Paul,

I'm an accountancy recruiter.  London based though, so may not be able to help directly. This is the CV advice / template I give people   if they want my input.

2 definites though;

1. No lies
2. Use quantified achievements (see below) wherever possible.




FIRSTNAME  SURNAME
X  Any Street, Anytown, Postcode etc
Tel (home) xxxx xxxxxx, Tel (mobile) xxxx xxx xxx, email xxx.xxx@xxxxx.com

A (JOB TITLE) with a strong record of achieving xxxxxx and xxxx in xxxx environments / businesses, thereby maximising performance and profitability.

2005-Date   COMPANY NAME Ltd – T/o £xxx m, Cleaning & Facilities Management Business
Job Title – (xx Division) T/o xxx m
Selected to do / achieve xxxx (i.e. key / main purpose of the role).
Achievements (Nb most achievement words end in “....ed" and read well if accompanied by a quantification (e.g. increased sales by 20%).
·   Restructured the xxxxxxxxxx with emphasis on quality of output and value adding service.
·   Introduced  xxxx leading to cost reduction of x% in x months
·   Implemented xxxx that enabled significant improvements in xxx and xxxx
·   Developed competitive tendering to maximise manpower utilisation whilst balancing shareholder needs.
·   Devised reporting structures throughout the division 
·   Introduced formal procedures and presentation criteria for capital expenditure appraisal.
·   Restructured receivables control reducing debtor days by 4 and liberating £x m of extra working capital
·   Negotiated the Divisions largest contract valued at £xxx m per annum £x m achieving year on year cost savings through partnership and sharing of benefits.

2003-2005   COMPANY NAME Ltd – T/o £xxx m, xxx Business
Job Title
Recruited to raise the quality of …. (i.e. key / main purpose of the role).
·   Introduced rigour and discipline into …..
·   Negotiated an exit strategy adding £x m cash value at a time of relatively severe cash haemorrhage.
·   Devised, planned and led a £xxx ERP IT installation minimising cash flows and significantly improving business performance and visibility.
·   Led all banking relationships, satisfying banking requirements on all key covenants and giving confidence to recovery plans.

2002-2003    COMPANY NAME Ltd – T/o £xxx m, xxx Business – (part of the t/o €1.5bn xxx plc Group)
Job Title – XXX DIVISION – T/o £xx xxxx manufacturing unit
Selected to manage finance function following major capital investment, pre group-wide reorganisation.
·   Reorganised finance structure into one cohesive unit ….
·   Engaged the finance function into the xxx initiative focusing team on adding value through integration at all levels within their specific functional areas and reducing finance headcount by 15%.
·   Implemented a structure of KPI’s to monitor performance and target business improvement.
·   Relocated staff into commercial and factory areas to aid better communication & understanding of product & process flow.

2001-2002   COMPANY NAME  Ltd – T/o £xxx m,  xxx Business
Job Title
Headhunted to manage finance, HR, company secretarial, IT, Treasury and general administration.
·   Advised, presented and took financial lead for xxxx in the merger with xxx to form xxxx Group
·   Designed and implemented procedures to xxxxx   

·   Personally negotiated £x m mortgage deal for the acquisition of 5 xxx and secured a third party back-to-back sale for one site securing 100% profit.
·   Post merger successfully integrated IT, financial processes and HR and relocated offices on time and within budget.

1977-2001     Job Title – COMPANY name LTD
1972-1977     Job Title – COMPANY name LTD

QUALIFICATIONS:    Professional Qualification   (e.g. ACA) plus year 
Degree (e.g. BSc in Economics), University name plus year.

PERSONAL:   Nationality. Marital Status. No of children. Location (or state “flexible”).





CV guidance notes

·   1-2 pages maximum
·   A brief personal summary at the top  (this is your elevator statement / first impression)
·   List your job roles in reverse chronological order
·   Name /describe the company (e.g. by size / sector), so readers can identify with it
·   Add your  job Title
·   Show a one line reason for appointment / highlighting the key purpose of your role
·   List your key / most  important achievements (usually 6 or 7 for the most recent role, and progressively less detail for earlier roles)
·   Remember achievements show what  you actually did....if you only list responsibilities these are what you should have done. Achievements are much more powerful and action orientated.  Quantified achievements even more so!
·   Achievements are often described by using words ending in  ....ed and are best if quantified to make them more powerful (e.g. reduced costs by 10%, e.g. improved sales by 20%)
·   No harm in summarising early career to save space.



What roles do you recruit for? Got anything in Sussex?!