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Title: queens to a 5 bet Post by: Ironside on January 23, 2012, 05:30:53 AM still 550 players left average stack is about 30k and i am in top 30 stacks
i have been very active and took villian off a pot when i isolated 2 short stacks with a9 which he wasnt impressed with even after i made the nut flush after the 5 bet can he have anything other that the 2 hands that dominate me folding would stilll leave me with a healthy stack but i have QQ PokerStars Hand #74325815247: Tournament #556010967, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (400/800) - 2012/01/23 5:19:51 WET [2012/01/23 0:19:51 ET] Table '556010967 162' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: senilitysux (35630 in chips) Seat 2: tuhla (11701 in chips) Seat 3: Ironside (81945 in chips) Seat 4: grizzly380 (98232 in chips) Seat 6: BS Slasher (41295 in chips) Seat 7: guesty1985 (103918 in chips) Seat 8: ZYGOTO (39787 in chips) Seat 9: PetePuma33 (4200 in chips) senilitysux: posts the ante 100 tuhla: posts the ante 100 Ironside: posts the ante 100 grizzly380: posts the ante 100 BS Slasher: posts the ante 100 guesty1985: posts the ante 100 ZYGOTO: posts the ante 100 PetePuma33: posts the ante 100 guesty1985: posts small blind 400 ZYGOTO: posts big blind 800 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ironside [Qc Qh] etestyk is connected PetePuma33: folds senilitysux: folds tuhla: folds Ironside: raises 800 to 1600 grizzly380: folds BS Slasher: folds guesty1985: raises 3200 to 4800 ZYGOTO: folds Ironside: raises 8400 to 13200 senilitysux is sitting out guesty1985: raises 14000 to 27200 Title: Re: queens to a 5 bet Post by: mulhuzz on January 23, 2012, 06:25:21 AM fuck it, just shove and expect him to level himself with AJ or something.
if he thinks you're aggro, doesn't he flat the 4bet and watch you barrel off? Title: Re: queens to a 5 bet Post by: outragous76 on January 23, 2012, 09:54:16 AM fuck it, just shove and expect him to level himself with AJ or something. if he thinks you're aggro, doesn't he flat the 4bet and watch you barrel off? That Not 4 betting QQ to fold it either Title: Re: queens to a 5 bet Post by: EvilPie on January 23, 2012, 10:54:50 AM 4 bet less. 8500 should do the trick.
Sigh fold to the 5 bet unfortunately. I hate 4 bet folding QQ but I doubt you're winning. Title: Re: queens to a 5 bet Post by: muckthenuts on January 23, 2012, 11:45:12 AM Ok when you 4bet, what are you trying to accomplish here? When you raise in a spot like this you need to know whether you're happy 4betting to get it in vs this guy, or whether you're going to fold if he 5bets you.
If you would fold, then your decision becomes an easy flat instead. If you are happy to get it in then 4bet call. It's kind of hard to give advice on this exact spot since we should have had a plan BEFORE we made the 4bet and not end up lost now because we didn't know what the purpose was of our original bet. It's imperative in a spot like this to always have a plan. Title: Re: queens to a 5 bet Post by: Pugwashed on January 23, 2012, 02:58:05 PM Ok when you 4bet, what are you trying to accomplish here? When you raise in a spot like this you need to know whether you're happy 4betting to get it in vs this guy, or whether you're going to fold if he 5bets you. If you would fold, then your decision becomes an easy flat instead. If you are happy to get it in then 4bet call. It's kind of hard to give advice on this exact spot since we should have had a plan BEFORE we made the 4bet and not end up lost now because we didn't know what the purpose was of our original bet. It's imperative in a spot like this to always have a plan. This. You should only be 4betting QQ here if you're happy getting it in if not then flat the 3bet. 4bet/folding QQ here should not be something you ever do, call the 3bet or 4bet to 6bet jam. As played, you might get folds occasionally, and sometimes he can show up with JJ/AK so with the money already in there you probably have to get this in. Tbh, his sizing is on the big side so I don't really expect him to be light here often but with the money in there and the fact that he can have JJ/AK sometimes you probably have to go with it Title: Re: queens to a 5 bet Post by: doubleup on January 23, 2012, 05:21:33 PM fuck it, just shove and expect him to level himself with AJ or something. if he thinks you're aggro, doesn't he flat the 4bet and watch you barrel off? I don't play these comps, but I do ppl 5 bet AJ when 100bbs deep? Title: Re: queens to a 5 bet Post by: mapp888 on January 23, 2012, 08:02:48 PM with the image and history you mentionned, i think it would be a mistake to 4-bet and then fold with QQ. so i think i would just ship it in here and pray he has ak or jj, or a rare bluff
Title: Re: queens to a 5 bet Post by: mulhuzz on January 23, 2012, 09:50:39 PM fuck it, just shove and expect him to level himself with AJ or something. if he thinks you're aggro, doesn't he flat the 4bet and watch you barrel off? I don't play these comps, but I do ppl 5 bet AJ when 100bbs deep? maybe with the dynamic as described, yah. even if not, i'm still not folding. we have third toppest pair and 100bb and we already put the fourth bet in. |