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Title: having trouble with these spots
Post by: Ironside on January 24, 2012, 03:20:10 AM
just been crippled down from 25lk to this after qq<kk the AA<AK

opener has been opening the folding alot caller is new to table

should i be shoving here?

i actually folded sb limped in bb shoved and everyone folded but his stack and my stack are totally different


PokerStars Hand #74377567366: Tournament #557010861, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2012/01/24 2:14:41 WET [2012/01/23 21:14:41 ET]
Table '557010861 67' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: crazy12041 (4473 in chips)
Seat 2: yang321 (27341 in chips)
Seat 3: malisalami (12435 in chips)
Seat 4: paultemps316 (17976 in chips)
Seat 5: DINOH2 (19075 in chips)
Seat 6: nelsonelder (28593 in chips)
Seat 7: miki242 (15875 in chips)
Seat 8: VovaS13 (12815 in chips)
Seat 9: Ironside (4901 in chips)
crazy12041: posts the ante 50
yang321: posts the ante 50
malisalami: posts the ante 50
paultemps316: posts the ante 50
DINOH2: posts the ante 50
nelsonelder: posts the ante 50
miki242: posts the ante 50
VovaS13: posts the ante 50
Ironside: posts the ante 50
yang321: posts small blind 200
malisalami: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [5c 6c]
paultemps316: raises 599 to 999
DINOH2: calls 999
nelsonelder: folds
miki242: folds
VovaS13: folds



Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: mulhuzz on January 24, 2012, 03:34:05 AM
snap fold.


Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: MC on January 24, 2012, 03:14:23 PM
Always a fold, you have virtually zero fold equity here...


Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: EvilPie on January 24, 2012, 03:28:13 PM
DINOH2 is calling 100% of the time even if the raiser doesn't.

Snap fold.


Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: outragous76 on January 24, 2012, 03:36:24 PM
Iron

You are playing a 12bb stack, you have 1 move - open shove

Obviously if someone raises you can be reshoving the top of your range, but whatever you are shoving with just expect to get called most of the time


Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: gatso on January 24, 2012, 04:07:09 PM
this is such a simple fold that it might be worth you writing down your thought process here as there's something fundamentally wrong with it if you're considering putting your chips in the middle in these spots. either that or you're tilting after losing the 2 big hands


Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: EvilPie on January 24, 2012, 04:12:24 PM
this is such a simple fold that it might be worth you writing down your thought process here as there's something fundamentally wrong with it if you're considering putting your chips in the middle in these spots. either that or you're tilting after losing the 2 big hands

Ooh pretty cards.

Gambool.


Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: gatso on January 24, 2012, 04:17:30 PM
lol, yeah, that's kinda what I was assuming the thought process was


Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: Ironside on January 24, 2012, 05:03:47 PM
yeah my instant though process was fold it was just after the hand played out i was thinking about how many bigs i need to be 3 bet shoving suited connectors to get people to fold
i keep reading that suited connectors are good for 3 betting still getting back into the swing of things had a couple of top 100 finishes in the small games with large fields last cpl of nights but kept
getting cold decked with big stacks before i get to serious money
but its when short i am having trouble, although i went from 48k early in a 3r last night to 7k when the bubble burst after a few beats then upto 100k (2x average) when i ran my kk on button into sb larger stacks aq in sb
i can feel a FT coming but trying to plug leaks in my game which i feel are when i get short and when i build a large stack when i am about average i feel fine


Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: pleno1 on January 24, 2012, 11:07:29 PM
2.50

fold pre.


Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: pleno1 on January 24, 2012, 11:08:55 PM
also a far better question is how wide should we shove here.


Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: EvilPie on January 24, 2012, 11:12:24 PM
also a far better question is how wide should we shove here.

Was thinking that.

I was thinking 88+, KQ, A10+, KJs

Probably struggling to fold a couple of smaller pairs as well tbh.

With some reads maybe go a bit wider.


Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: Ironside on January 25, 2012, 03:34:04 AM
also a far better question is how wide should we shove here.

Was thinking that.

I was thinking 88+, KQ, A10+, KJs

Probably struggling to fold a couple of smaller pairs as well tbh.

With some reads maybe go a bit wider.

thanks perfect answer


Title: Re: having trouble with these spots
Post by: Longy on January 26, 2012, 08:46:17 AM
also a far better question is how wide should we shove here.

Was thinking that.

I was thinking 88+, KQ, A10+, KJs

Probably struggling to fold a couple of smaller pairs as well tbh.

With some reads maybe go a bit wider.

Yeah shoving 66 and 77 is good here as well imo.