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Title: To shove or not to shove....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 26, 2012, 07:51:11 PM
I don't think I'm ever called by worse if I shove river...thoughts?

Poker Encore Vegas Round 8 20/40, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button Button (4365)
SB SB (1810)
BB BB (4435)
UTG (3955)
UTG+1 (6325)
MP (4000)
MP (1760)
CO-1 (3880)
CO (1470)

Preflop: Button is on the Button with 8(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif) A(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif)
 6 folds, Button raises to 85, SB calls 65, BB calls 45.

Flop (255) 6(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif) 3(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif) K(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif)
 SB checks, BB checks, Button bets 125, 1 fold, BB calls 125.

Turn (505) A(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif)
 BB checks, Button bets 175, BB calls 175.

River (855) A(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif)
 BB bets 480, Button ??

I pretty much have the disguised nuts in this hand (it's a rebuy). I defo (?) can't raise/fold the river, so should I raise/call, just call or shove this river?

thoughts on other streets also welcome, particularly wrt turn bet sizing


Title: Re: To shove or not to shove....
Post by: George2Loose on January 26, 2012, 07:52:36 PM
Course u can get called by worse


Title: Re: To shove or not to shove....
Post by: WotRTheChances on January 26, 2012, 07:59:05 PM
Jam. If you just raise to 1100-1500 you get called by worse or raised mostly by hands you are behind (but obv never raise-folding here). Jamming you get called by worse Ax, Kx and some other heros.... its a rebuy... the call button is inflated in surface area by at least 150%.


Title: Re: To shove or not to shove....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 26, 2012, 08:01:58 PM
how much different is this if we have AdXd not clubs....

i was thinking that some of his range is Ax diamonds...although obv a smalllll part.


Title: Re: To shove or not to shove....
Post by: pleno1 on January 26, 2012, 08:32:34 PM
bet bigger otf, def bet bigger ott, and raise/fold the river smallish.


Title: Re: To shove or not to shove....
Post by: Ironside on January 26, 2012, 10:32:02 PM
dont think i ever fold river in the rebuy stage


Title: Re: To shove or not to shove....
Post by: jgcblack on January 26, 2012, 11:48:06 PM
bet bigger otf, def bet bigger ott, and raise/fold the river smallish.

This! Not sure if I agree with the fold river.. maybe shove.. esp in rebuy stage.

Bigger all the way pls! :)up


Title: Re: To shove or not to shove....
Post by: dreenie on January 27, 2012, 08:39:53 AM
I would Bet flop, Check back turn and flick it back on river, folding if he shoved, what hand did he have?


Title: Re: To shove or not to shove....
Post by: dreenie on January 27, 2012, 08:40:44 AM
Once he bets river, I would just flat tho, what did you do?


Title: Re: To shove or not to shove....
Post by: mapp888 on January 27, 2012, 05:50:39 PM
definitely have to shove this in rebuy. u prob get call by a lot of k in his hand. if he bet bigger nearer the pot then u should prob call