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Title: Standard calldown? Post by: zerofive on January 27, 2012, 06:25:05 PM In a pretty active 50/1 game at Dusk. Raggy's mate Andy is generating a lot of action. Bald guy, usually plays 1/2, doesn't say much. For those that don't know him, he's pretty laggy and probs aware of it.
The £2 straddle is on, it folds to the fish on my right who makes it £7, I make it £21 to iso with Ks Qs , folds to Andy on the straddle who calls. OR folds. Flop (£50) Qd Td 7c He bets £25 I call. Turn (£100) Qd Td 7c 7h He bets £65 I call. River (£230) Qd Td 7c 7h 8h He shoves for effectively £140. I Standard? Bad? Heroic? So sure he plays every draw like this. Don't think he flats QQ+ pre. Might have TT or AQ but meh. Feels like I'm beating a chunk of his range and I probs have a better hand than he's giving me credit for. Any way we're playing it differently? Title: Re: Standard calldown? Post by: Skippy on January 27, 2012, 06:38:15 PM How deep is everybody?
Title: Re: Standard calldown? Post by: zerofive on January 27, 2012, 06:42:16 PM Opener is like £120 deep. I'm like £240 I guess. Villain covers me. Didn't post stacks 'cause we're all-in by river.
Title: Re: Standard calldown? Post by: cambridgealex on January 27, 2012, 06:54:46 PM Can you direct Andy to the 1/2 game next time please. Actually nevermind, ill be sure to let him know ;)
Title: Re: Standard calldown? Post by: cambridgealex on January 27, 2012, 06:57:18 PM He probs has 7x or J9dd/J9xx. Might fold villain dependant. More description needed imo.
Title: Re: Standard calldown? Post by: cambridgealex on January 27, 2012, 06:59:52 PM Sorry misread, if bald andy is villain,then defo call. He'll literally never give up on a bluff. Even if there's a grand in the pot and he has 100 back, if he's barrelled the turn, he's still jamming the river with air.
You have to pay the man when he has it, cos he bluffs so frequently. Title: Re: Standard calldown? Post by: jgcblack on January 28, 2012, 04:08:56 AM Sounds uber villain dependant. I would have said probably fold the river but with Alex's comment, then just flick it in and take the pot when he has any blue cards..
Title: Re: Standard calldown? Post by: George2Loose on January 28, 2012, 09:35:06 AM Sounds uber villain dependant. I would have said probably fold the river but with Alex's comment, then just flick it in and take the pot when he has any blue cards.. So u hero/float/flat 4 bets with Q10 but you wanna fold here?!?! Title: Re: Standard calldown? Post by: SuuPRlim on January 28, 2012, 04:41:21 PM I would call purely because I don't want to fold. It's not a line i see people take all that often to just donk donk donk w/o PF initiative, as most people would find c/r a set or top2 much more preferable and big draws are usually always c/r as that is the best way to maximise fold equity. Assuming he isn't being very sick and doing this with AQ it seems his value range is a little too narrow so if he has shown any willingness to bluff in recent history i'd be looking him up here.
Title: Re: Standard calldown? Post by: PeeJay on January 29, 2012, 07:18:16 PM Too hard to find the fold button vs Andy!
Title: Re: Standard calldown? Post by: EvilPie on January 29, 2012, 07:35:00 PM I would call purely because I don't want to fold. I have this problem quite often. Title: Re: Standard calldown? Post by: stato_1 on January 31, 2012, 09:47:08 AM Andy cold calls an abs bunch, his range is so wide here pre, and he won't fold any pair/draw after donking so I'm raise calling the flop and pretty happy about it. Do think river is probably a fold now, don't beat much
Title: Re: Standard calldown? Post by: WotRTheChances on January 31, 2012, 04:48:05 PM Villain probably has 7dXd, but i'm a non-believer, always will be.... it's not villain dependant, i love dat call butttttton.
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