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Title: Is this the right play?
Post by: ForthThistle on January 28, 2012, 12:38:29 AM
***Live Poker***
I have just moved table and i am in the Cut off.
I have 22BB and villian in EP has 39BB

Blinds 1k/2k and a 100 Ante.
8 players at the table.

Villian raises to 7k and folded to me in Cut off with  Ac Jc

I repop it to 16.5K leaving 27.5K behind

As this correct or is it a shove with 22BB or Flat call to see a flop.

Advice would be appreciated.



Title: Re: Is this the right play?
Post by: pleno1 on January 28, 2012, 12:49:39 AM
certain people can 3b/call because of their image or certain variables, but 95% of people should 3b jam here and you almost definitely fall into this category. Lots of time they will fold, when they call we hope for a race but we almost always have 32ish so in decent shape vs most calling ranges here.


Title: Re: Is this the right play?
Post by: cambridgealex on January 28, 2012, 02:46:25 AM
certain people can 3b/call because of their image or certain variables, but 95% of people should 3b jam here and you almost definitely fall into this category. Lots of time they will fold, when they call we hope for a race but we almost always have 32ish so in decent shape vs most calling ranges here.

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Title: Re: Is this the right play?
Post by: jgcblack on January 28, 2012, 04:23:24 AM
Pleno is the best in the business.... [X]


Title: Re: Is this the right play?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 28, 2012, 04:45:20 PM
solved by captain pleno


Title: Re: Is this the right play?
Post by: railtard1 on January 28, 2012, 04:56:37 PM
Yh pleno pretty good here.

Although something i will throw in. Do you think us making it 16.5 (committing ourselves unless he is abs insane) affects his "getting in" range? I think it most certainly does. Like u jamming 22bb might get snapped by 88/99, but does he find the hero fold wen you make it 16.5?
Altho we then have worse equity against his getting in range ( if he is getting in only TT+ AQ+ )


Title: Re: Is this the right play?
Post by: Ironside on January 28, 2012, 05:03:53 PM
Villain has 3.5x opened from ep, surely this narrows his range to one that doesn't we don't play well against, and a range he will find hard to fold, if he had opened smaller or been in lp then his range would make jamming a good move but I think I find a fold with aj here


Title: Re: Is this the right play?
Post by: Bully87 on January 28, 2012, 05:07:27 PM
Sticking over a third of our stack is pretty minging, would rather just 3b aipf or fold.


Title: Re: Is this the right play?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 28, 2012, 05:46:38 PM
Sticking over a third of our stack is pretty minging, would rather just 3b aipf or fold.

defo bot advocating 3b folding! if 16.5k gets more folds then thats defo good


Title: Re: Is this the right play?
Post by: pleno1 on January 29, 2012, 01:04:31 AM
Yeah its definitely a move I have in my arsenal too, I think if I or Marc did it against a good thinking player their calling range would be alot wider (this hh is from a live game I assume) and therefore reallllly bad, but, and I hope you don't take offence it would be  perfect for you to do it vs a thinking opponent and your stereotype. Alot of "hoodies" would call alotttt tighter.

Kinda divulging from the thread but what do you think a as a 40 year old in PCA or EPT etc, 3b/folding UTG vs mp with AJcc with 24ish bbs vs a min open?


Title: Re: Is this the right play?
Post by: sm00035 on February 09, 2012, 02:20:22 PM
Villain has 3.5x opened from ep, surely this narrows his range to one that doesn't we don't play well against, and a range he will find hard to fold, if he had opened smaller or been in lp then his range would make jamming a good move but I think I find a fold with aj here

In a tournie think I will prob fold this. I find that when people do 3-5x it late on, they aren't planning on folding. They either have a pp (TT-KK) and annoyed 'idiots always call with Ace rag and get there', or they AK and are scared of getting hooded and not flopping a pair. If you have no real reads on villain I lean towards a fold, just wouldn't tell anyone about it.

If it's a cash game, I would jam it in then either top up 100bb or move down stakes.


Title: Re: Is this the right play?
Post by: ForthThistle on February 10, 2012, 07:26:05 PM
Flop comes

6d8dAd
he shoves and i call.

im against QdQh

Turn brings the 4d

Thanks to all.