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Title: England ffs !
Post by: nirvana on January 28, 2012, 10:40:13 AM
Hard to believe the general ineptness of the batting at the moment.

These spinners are decent but they're not doing anything amazing with the ball and the pitch is OK in terms of bounce. An off spinner, turns some and doesn't turn some. They're bowling at a decent pace but so did 'slow' bowlers like Kumble.

Can't quite understand how they are making batting look so difficult.

Also, stop planting you're fkn leg in line and use the bat


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: George2Loose on January 28, 2012, 10:43:03 AM
Time to change the sig?


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 28, 2012, 11:19:30 AM
Come on lads,you can limp over the line!!


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 11:22:45 AM
Poor decision by the onfield umpire there- think when 2 of the variables are umpires call it should be enough to always favour the batsmen (possibly something that would improve the referral), which is always supposed to be the case in cricket generally

How the umpire can be sure thats hitting in line and not going over il never know


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Woodsey on January 28, 2012, 11:26:25 AM
Poor decision by the onfield umpire there- think when 2 of the variables are umpires call it should be enough to always favour the batsmen (possibly something that would improve the referral), which is always supposed to be the case in cricket generally

How the umpire can be sure thats hitting in line and not going over il never know

Hawkeye, there has to be a clear mistake to change the on field decision.


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 11:30:05 AM
Im obviously talking about the original onfield umpire. I do know the rules lol


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Woodsey on January 28, 2012, 11:32:24 AM
Im obviously talking about the original onfield umpire. I do know the rules lol

LOL ok, its turns out he was right anyway so it wasn't that bad a decision in the first instance   :P


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 11:33:57 AM
Well no he wasnt right really. Thats the point im making. Because he is also right if he says no and Pakistan refer! But in cricket the benefit of the doubt is supposed to favour the batsmen- this is the decision made BEFORE a referral obviously


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 11:35:08 AM
If you think the umpire can be SURE the ball hit in line and wasnt going over, then il get a job. And thats 2 questionable variables, so he should never give it. Pakistan can always refer when he says not out, and then obviously "umpires call" would favour the batsmen as it should


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Woodsey on January 28, 2012, 11:36:14 AM
Hmmm, whatever. On another note I have to say Pakistan tilt the shit out of me with their excessive appealing at times.


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 11:37:25 AM
Obviously drives me mad too mate but it probably works- the umpire thought long and hard about it- a quiet appeal and you never know he might have said not out, they refer, waste a refferal and Strauss still in


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: nirvana on January 28, 2012, 11:41:09 AM
Well no he wasnt right really. Thats the point im making. Because he is also right if he says no and Pakistan refer! But in cricket the benefit of the doubt is supposed to favour the batsmen- this is the decision made BEFORE a referral obviously

They're definitely way too inclined to give decisions now as they have seen how many times these marginal ones clip the stumps. With you on the onfield guys giving more benefit of the doubt, not back to the ridic way lbw decisions were made 20 years ago which totally favoured crap batsman.

The review system cannot be so accurate that it is a 'good' decision when the ball interferes with the stumps by less than a centimetre.



Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 11:43:59 AM
Yeah not back to the days where they take massive strides and just put bat behind the pad and say "was down the pitch"


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 11:46:30 AM
Lol that was slightly easier


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Solaris on January 28, 2012, 11:47:16 AM
This is reminiscent of some of the 90's England sides. Christ.

Time for someone to be a hero.


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Woodsey on January 28, 2012, 11:50:36 AM
Tut!

Good bowling though


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: TightEnd on January 28, 2012, 11:52:17 AM
A good pakistan side with one great spinner, Ajmal, that 4 of our top 6 cannot pick and a couple of very good spinners. 4 of the top 7 are out of form anyway


A great tesat match, really



Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 11:52:46 AM
Shocking shot, its always gonna turn out the rough lol

Whoever is at the ground sniping the prices is pretty clueless, wiped it down to only 1.25 after the wicket, obviously market settles at 1.16, so cost themselves a small fortune already


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 11:53:59 AM
Ajmal is not a great- he is decent tho and probably very good, the other 2 are surely only average? If they were bowling on flat pitches they would  be serial 35 overs 0/105 men


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Solaris on January 28, 2012, 11:56:28 AM
Shocking shot, its always gonna turn out the rough lol


Completely agree. They're banging on about the quality of the ball, completely ignoring the fact Broad's just got in and shouldn't be playing such a ridiculous shot that early on.

Boycott losing it in TMS and quite rightly.

Game over now.


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 12:01:16 PM
Tilting to watch how bad it is. My brother going Sri Lanka in March, if its anything like this am glad due date stopped me going with him!


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 12:01:59 PM
If Monty knocks them off, we should all agree to get Montster tatoos


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: nirvana on January 28, 2012, 12:02:19 PM
Am willing to accept the English batsman, even out of form are better than me.

However, against a spinner like Ajmal you can prob take an off stump guard and get down the pitch to him outside the line. I don think his off spinner can spin past you down leg if your anywhere near the pitch of it. LBW should only really be a factor when he's round the wicket



Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 12:03:12 PM
Yeah they approached it all wrong for sure- the pitch aint even a turner really either. Its just in their heads


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: nirvana on January 28, 2012, 12:04:07 PM
Great couple of years so cant be too hard on them but that was pretty bad.

Well done to Pakistan though, seem a good bunch this lot


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 12:05:07 PM
Strauss decision was defo a turning point tho, England were odds on still at that point, I know they were 4 down but defo was a key factor


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Solaris on January 28, 2012, 12:08:10 PM
Delightful one-hand drive from Prior.  :D

Fuck me, not one batsmen used their brain in that innings. They need to have a serious rethink on their approach to spin.

Morgan needs to be dropped and Pietersen needs to take a long hard look at his technique. Then again perhaps they all do.


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: nirvana on January 28, 2012, 12:09:31 PM
Tilting to watch how bad it is. My brother going Sri Lanka in March, if its anything like this am glad due date stopped me going with him!

That tour will be so hard. Our seamers are a factor on these pitches, still hear some of the commentators referring to these as sub continent conditions, and the conditions being difficult. Well they're not really at all and we should have expected to win here by a distance I think.  Plenty of history to suggest our seamers in Sri Lanka will struggle quite badly



Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: Dubai on January 28, 2012, 12:10:20 PM
Still wish i was going really tho :)


Title: Re: England ffs !
Post by: nirvana on January 28, 2012, 12:12:23 PM
Still wish i was going really tho :)

Obv :-)