Title: 8 minutes? Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2012, 02:18:25 PM Hey,
Here is first training video I ever made which got released today. We can discuss here right? Make video full screen to watch. Also any feedback on way I did the video would be good. Hope mods don't mind me posting vid, think its good for blonde too to help spice PHA up a little. YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44W0tNCVr_I Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: mondatoo on February 01, 2012, 02:32:44 PM Not being funny but I turned it off because it tilted me that you had the HH as the video but you can't read it ( I made it full screen), or at least I can't.
Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: gatso on February 01, 2012, 02:44:12 PM I turned it off pretty quick too. hate the hh format, cba to look at that for 8 minutes
Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2012, 02:47:59 PM Make video full screen to watch. Or you can make it double size or whatever so can still be on skype/msn and still watch the video can read it perfectly there but from small screen isn't clear. Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2012, 02:49:19 PM Just trying to do something a little different :)
Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: Acidmouse on February 01, 2012, 02:50:38 PM visual reply of the hand is needed so i can see what happened on the table.
Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2012, 02:53:04 PM visual reply of the hand is needed so i can see what happened on the table. Thanks for feedback, will try this for next week, the point of the video was a "turbo" video where we discuss a hand just like we would in the office that lasts less than 10 minutes, but def think the hand replayer is a good idea. Although I think the one PokerFarm uses really doesn't work well. Thanks. Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: gatso on February 01, 2012, 02:54:03 PM I can't read it in full screen either without changing it to 1080. default is unreadable
Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: Dewi_cool on February 01, 2012, 03:01:52 PM be better in English imo of course
Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: outragous76 on February 01, 2012, 03:16:46 PM I thought it was fine
It sounded a bit "trying to hard" when you were explaining why its difficult for him to have K5/J5 - could have dealt with it quickly tbh You didnt mention the fact that he has a bluff range on the river, which is very strange considering you suggested he has high river aggresion and suggests you think his river aggro factor is all for value. Pretty significant party of this him IMO, much more than action on other 2 tables (but I dont play HU so much) didnt like the shove on the end, zero chance he passes A5 ;whistle; Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2012, 03:32:30 PM I thought it was fine It sounded a bit "trying to hard" when you were explaining why its difficult for him to have K5/J5 - could have dealt with it quickly tbh You didnt mention the fact that he has a bluff range on the river, which is very strange considering you suggested he has high river aggresion and suggests you think his river aggro factor is all for value. Pretty significant party of this him IMO, much more than action on other 2 tables (but I dont play HU so much) didnt like the shove on the end, zero chance he passes A5 ;whistle; i didnt think he could get to the river with a bluffing range because of the fact that he c/called tiwce and would fold all straight draws ott because of reverse implieds meaning on the river i expected the very bottom of his range to be a decent Jx. As for passing A5 I think that is the main part of the discussion and what I'd like to discuss further although I think its pretty unlikely people put 300bbs in when their range is quite face up to being trips. (Was my initial thought process) As for trying to hard, yeh I agree remember this video will go out to hundreds/thousands of memebrs on a site where members are on average not as good as blonde so just tried to say why rather than skimming over. Thanks for your thughts and feedback. Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: WotRTheChances on February 01, 2012, 04:29:58 PM Like it overall, i'm sure it'll start sounding a lot more natural after you've done a couple of these, but defo a good start. Not sure I like the hand that much, trying to get someone to lay down trips HU is not something I would be advising if this is aimed at the sort of people you seem to be targeting this video at. Seems kinda interesting to turn a hand near the top of your range into a bluff, in this exact instance, I understand your thought processes and I like the play, but it HAS to be against a player you have played with for a bit and the dynamic has to be such that you are confident he will lay down 5x and not be someone who will just sigh-call it off 90% of the time with any 5.
Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2012, 04:56:30 PM Like it overall, i'm sure it'll start sounding a lot more natural after you've done a couple of these, but defo a good start. Not sure I like the hand that much, trying to get someone to lay down trips HU is not something I would be advising if this is aimed at the sort of people you seem to be targeting this video at. Seems kinda interesting to turn a hand near the top of your range into a bluff, in this exact instance, I understand your thought processes and I like the play, but it HAS to be against a player you have played with for a bit and the dynamic has to be such that you are confident he will lay down 5x and not be someone who will just sigh-call it off 90% of the time with any 5. Hey, thanks for feedback, definitely agree with everything. The video is being sent out to 5m members although of course not all will read, in that member base we have 2nl to 100knl players. Usually it will be aimed at 100nl-600nl players but it was a "special" this week so they gave it to everybody. I definitely agree that we need more than a "hunch" to do the river bluff and a decent sample is a must. Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: mulhuzz on February 01, 2012, 05:36:26 PM we've talked about this hand alot anyway and I like it, I think it's a good line and I expect folds a lottttt from a solid hand reader. good for action anyway if you're called by 5x and V sees that you're either overvaluing top two or capable of turning the top of your bluff catching range into a bluff.
For the record: don't post HH's like that (universal replayer ldo), and don't have a 2p2 window open, unless ps.com finally decided to buy them ;) Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2012, 05:47:26 PM oops haha :D
Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: SuuPRlim on February 01, 2012, 06:45:33 PM hello P.Leno Inc. :)
I thought you did a great job in this video, spoke pretty clearly and slowly which is quite an achievement really considering you're pretty much a geordie, My feedback would be as everyone has said really.. The HH isnt very clear and it would be miles better if it was - using a hand re-player is the way to go imo :) I would like to see a LITTLE more detailed combinatronic work on the river bluff - showing the actual calculations you've used to determine the breakeven fold% of the river bluff - also you're then showing the audience WHY shoving is better than calling (I know it seems obvious but I think it would make the video better if it was explained clearly) Also you never once mentioned the oppo could have 55 ? (!) I thought it was a very good video and by the time you've released 2 or 3 I reckon you'll be making really really good vids :)up good work !!! As for the hand I remember you posting it on this forum and I said at the time I liked it, calling is 100% a worse move than jamming and vs the described villain it's an ideal spot to bluff imo (very hard to call 56s off here for him) also I think you want a range that bluffs in this spot for defo and it's hard to have one. Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: titaniumbean on February 01, 2012, 06:49:44 PM ya I liked it, the quick videos are often alot more interesting than longer videos with dead time. I also understood what you were saying which surprised me.
I seem to be the only one who was fine with the look of the vid, but i'm pretty hardcore and the vid seemed to change quality a few mins in and suddenly it was all perfectly readable. I often like hhs where one player hasn't seen the hh before and is discussing xy holding rather than our specific hand, once you've discussed the ranges then showing the hand can continue the discussion and focus it slightly more on the part of your range that you've got in the spot with. Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2012, 07:11:19 PM thanks hewos, feedbaack is great and spot on. Hopefully we xan bump this thread in 3 years be like like lolllllllllllllllll
Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: pleno1 on February 22, 2012, 02:01:26 PM part 2, really want feedback as feel this could get alot better..
http://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/23108/ Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: pleno1 on February 22, 2012, 02:09:32 PM I thought you did a great job in this video, spoke pretty clearly and slowly which is quite an achievement really considering you're pretty much a geordie, I failed on this part this time round I'm sure. I spoke very fast because wanted to fit in quite alot of content into 10 minutes. Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: jgcblack on February 26, 2012, 02:02:56 PM I thought you did a great job in this video, spoke pretty clearly and slowly which is quite an achievement really considering you're pretty much a geordie, I failed on this part this time round I'm sure. I spoke very fast because wanted to fit in quite alot of content into 10 minutes. Like both, but think you might have been a little quick in the second video. I like the idea of quick 10minute videos working a particular concept. One a week? Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: MTT DESTROYER on February 26, 2012, 02:51:17 PM Question about opening raise amounts, is it really standard to vary your open depending on what position you're in? You say open 3.5x utg and 2.5x the button, why not just 2.5 everything?
Cheers (i take it this is purely for cash?) Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: SuuPRlim on February 26, 2012, 07:40:40 PM MTT are you talking about for live pokers yh or online?
I have a strategy online where I open 3.5x (this is PLO remember but i htink the concepts are the same) for EP and 2.5 or 3x from the CO or BTN (depending who is on the btn) the reasons for this are that when I open EP I generally want to disaude an army of callers, as most hands are tough to play 4way OOP single raised, so opening a little more means less people call generally who I will be OOP to, when im in the CO or the BTN i can open a little smaller, getting a better price on my steal and flop Cbet + I am looking to encourage callers as most people who call me will be OOP to me which makes me a favorite to win the hand a high% of the time. This is for PLO though, wether it applies to NL online or not I don't know, but hopefully that somewhat answers the question. As for live I pretty much just vary my opening size depending on who's left to act and how good my hand is lol Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: cambridgealex on February 26, 2012, 09:02:12 PM MTT are you talking about for live pokers yh or online? I have a strategy online where I open 3.5x (this is PLO remember but i htink the concepts are the same) for EP and 2.5 or 3x from the CO or BTN (depending who is on the btn) the reasons for this are that when I open EP I generally want to disaude an army of callers, as most hands are tough to play 4way OOP single raised, so opening a little more means less people call generally who I will be OOP to, when im in the CO or the BTN i can open a little smaller, getting a better price on my steal and flop Cbet + I am looking to encourage callers as most people who call me will be OOP to me which makes me a favorite to win the hand a high% of the time. This is for PLO though, wether it applies to NL online or not I don't know, but hopefully that somewhat answers the question. As for live I pretty much just vary my opening size depending on who's left to act and how good my hand is lol yeh this. confirmed same in nl Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: MTT DESTROYER on February 26, 2012, 09:24:23 PM I can understand raising 3.5x utg in live poker because if you 2.5x it utg at live 0.50/1 you'll probably get 8 callers.
In NL online, if we raise bigger utg are we not forcing out weaker hands that we want to call and only getting played back at with premiums? Wouldn't it be better to just tighten our utg opening range rather than increasing our raise size? Title: Re: 8 minutes? Post by: SuuPRlim on February 26, 2012, 11:41:24 PM I can understand raising 3.5x utg in live poker because if you 2.5x it utg at live 0.50/1 you'll probably get 8 callers. In NL online, if we raise bigger utg are we not forcing out weaker hands that we want to call and only getting played back at with premiums? Wouldn't it be better to just tighten our utg opening range rather than increasing our raise size? This is thinking of the hands in actual hand vs hand equity, as in when we open QJs utg for 3.5x we will pretty likely let J9 fold and AQ is going to come along, which sounds like it's terrible, but it isn't. The playability of our hands post-flop is drastically decreased speshly as we're going to be playing OOP. Only getting played back at with premiums is fine if our 3.5x raise discourages players from 3betting us light as that means they will be folding and our 4bet range is pretty simple to build here. i agree though we should have tight opening range UTG, opening to 3.5x only works if the range you're opening is strong enough. |