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Title: Opponents thought process?
Post by: Radagast on February 19, 2012, 12:12:45 PM
I am playing recently in a live 50 GBP buy in... 12k starting stack... 30 min blinds....35 players.

I have been very tight...

only real notable hands I flop top set on a 678 board and moved all in when what I had behind equalled the pot.  Guy folded and showed 5-6, I showed my hand.

later Im all in with 10 10 v AK with 12 bbs and win.......

Ive raised and c bet a few Ax hands without challenge.


We are now at 400/800, 18 players remain playing 6 handed....I have 12k left. 

UTG +1 makes it 2400

UTG +2 calls for 2400

Folded to me, I move all in for 12000 total.

UTG folds

UTG +2 tanks....he had 22000 before the hand...its 9600 for him to call.

He calls with  3d 3h and says I have hardly seen any of your hands tonight, you need to gamble sometime.

Without knowing my hand, what is he thinking right now as if the roles were reversed I would not have called neither the original 2400 with  3c 3h or the all in?



Now I have played with this guy occasionally and he is a solid player.  However tonight he has commentated all night on most hands, finished 40 odd place in the recent DTD grand prix, goes down 3 times a week from Glasgow etc,  won 12k online recently etc etc ...admittedly he has played well in the first few hours of play.






Title: Re: Opponents thought process?
Post by: SuuPRlim on February 19, 2012, 12:33:13 PM
it's quite a bad call tbh although if he thinks you're jamming quite wide then it's no where near as bad as you think it is. I would prolly have jammed his stack over peeling the 2400. Folding fine as well, agree just calling the 2400 is not a great play. Is there ante's? I'd be jamming if there was ante's and prolly folding if there wasnt


Title: Re: Opponents thought process?
Post by: Radagast on February 19, 2012, 01:07:32 PM
Cheers.  No antes. 

Yes Im glad you agree, I just didnt think his call stacked up.  Obviously I was delighted when he called, not when he pinged a 3 on the first card out.

But it was just one of those moments I couldnt get my head around and wondered if i mis read the odds or my move wasnt the best.

I couldnt really do much else.

After he took so long to call I expected him to have KQs or AJ hoping I had a medium pair or I was wide.

Thanks for the feedback. 


Title: Re: Opponents thought process?
Post by: jakally on February 19, 2012, 01:30:11 PM
From an odds POV his call is not that bad.

He gets about 2:1 on the call, which against a range of AJo+, ATs+, KQ+, 66+ is ok.
This may be a bit wide for you, but still, it's only a small -EV play to call, at worst.

Peeling 33 PF in that spot is pretty horrible though.


Title: Re: Opponents thought process?
Post by: SuuPRlim on February 19, 2012, 01:47:56 PM
From an odds POV his call is not that bad.

He gets about 2:1 on the call, which against a range of AJo+, ATs+, KQ+, 66+ is ok.
This may be a bit wide for you, but still, it's only a small -EV play to call, at worst.

Peeling 33 PF in that spot is pretty horrible though.

yh, this is why jamming the 33 vs that range is a way way superior play than calling and calling