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Title: Interesting river spot Post by: rbc_mike on March 03, 2012, 01:17:44 PM 50p/£1 at DTD, 6 handed.
Game has been pretty decent, stack of around £400 at this point. Villain raises utg to £4. CO calls, BTN calls, Hero calls in BB with Kd Jd. Pot (17.50). Flop: 8s 9h Tc Checks through. Turn: Qc Hero bets 13, villain calls, CO and BTN fold. Pot (43.50) River: 6c Hero bets 26. Villain shoves all in for 110. Hero folds. Villain 1 is competent, thinking player. At time I felt that he pretty much has me beat with a flush alot of the time here, but then when i got home, I felt this was a spot where I can get bluffed so much? Could be turning two pair or a bare jack into a bluff, making me fold the nut straight often enough for him to make a shove profitable. Does this affect our river decision at all, i.e. checking to induce some bluffs from made hands that know they have to turn themselves into a bluff? I know its 50/1 and I should keep it relatively straightforward, just wanted some opinions on the hand. Title: Re: Interesting river spot Post by: PeeJay on March 04, 2012, 03:57:26 AM Is he competent enough to bluff the river often enough to bet call it off? Bet/fold seems standard in a 50/1 DTD game. If he isn't sitting with the table max then I'd automatically assume he isn't a sicko. Probably bad to generalise people like that but I think it's a pretty good guideline for DTD 50/1 anyway
Title: Re: Interesting river spot Post by: SuuPRlim on March 04, 2012, 05:55:30 AM sorry to leave such a breif answer but I don't have much time, I would never ever fold here.
Also chk/shove turn is way better than betting imo Title: Re: Interesting river spot Post by: rbc_mike on March 04, 2012, 08:08:36 PM Is he competent enough to bluff the river often enough to bet call it off? Bet/fold seems standard in a 50/1 DTD game. If he isn't sitting with the table max then I'd automatically assume he isn't a sicko. Probably bad to generalise people like that but I think it's a pretty good guideline for DTD 50/1 anyway Yeh my thoughts exactly mate, maybe at 1/2 or 2/5 its alot more of a decision here, but villain shoves this river (was one of my friends I came with), more often than not, they have it. sorry to leave such a breif answer but I don't have much time, I would never ever fold here. Also chk/shove turn is way better than betting imo What do we do if it's checked through on turn? Surely we want to keep flush draws in hand/worse straights by betting as we have great equity against them and get to control the pot size? Doubt anyone checks a set on this flop, and reckon a good % of the time a bare jack bets the flop if checked to. Title: Re: Interesting river spot Post by: SuuPRlim on March 05, 2012, 10:41:50 AM What do we do if it's checked through on turn? Surely we want to keep flush draws in hand/worse straights by betting as we have great equity against them and get to control the pot size? Doubt anyone checks a set on this flop, and reckon a good % of the time a bare jack bets the flop if checked to. I think you'll get a lot of bluffs and you will for sure stack every jack by c/j OTT. I don't think anyone will bluff twice here and most J*'s won't jam. naked club draws will V likely chk back but you can only win one bet from them and they will rarely fold the turn or pay off the river without a flush so letting a FD chk through doesn't cost you much imo. I just think you always have a JACK when you bet the turn Title: Re: Interesting river spot Post by: OESFD on March 05, 2012, 06:46:38 PM do we ever consider he has the same hand here? Kh Jh for example?
Title: Re: Interesting river spot Post by: muckthenuts on March 05, 2012, 07:20:35 PM In live games bet/fold is fine. You aren't being exploited.
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