Title: The Right to Die Post by: George2Loose on March 12, 2012, 02:29:47 PM http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17336774
Always find these stories so compelling and am on the fence. Obviously this person has no quality of life and wants to die but cannot do it without help. Is the court right in its ruling? If a loved one asked you to do this- assuming no legal implication- could you do it? Should it euthanasia be made legal or would it be subject to exploitation? Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: millidonk on March 12, 2012, 02:33:44 PM I had to write an essay on this once as well as take part in a debate.
Cliffs = Pro Euthanasia, should be made legal. Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: Hairydude on March 12, 2012, 02:35:54 PM I think.... If the rules and regulations are water tight and there is no room for abuse then it should be made legal.
I know a guy who went to dignitas after being paralysed from the waist down after jumping head first into swimming pool; it cost his family and absolute fortune to get everything done and were also subject to an investigation from the police(but were ultimately and thankfully not prosecuted) It had already cost his family £20k to get him home from Spain as alcohol was in his system from the night before(who hasnt on holiday) and insurance wouldnt pay out Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: Eso Kral on March 12, 2012, 02:45:23 PM Having seen my Father pass away 3 yrs ago from Cancer and remembering what a proud/strong man he was and what that put him through I would be pro Euthanasia camp as once he knew it was terminal if he could have flicked the switch then I am 100% sure he would have!
Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: Marky147 on March 12, 2012, 02:55:08 PM Pro for me 100%
God forbid I ever get to that stage but should I reach a point where I am unable to function on any normal level and am incapable of being able to feed myself or communicate etc. I would want to go to sleep and it be the long one. That may be considered selfish but I think that's my right as I can't even begin to comprehend what kind of hell it is to be trapped inside a body which doesn't work whilst being completely aware of everything that is going on around. Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: mondatoo on March 12, 2012, 02:56:44 PM I'm definitely in the Pro camp.
Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: DungBeetle on March 12, 2012, 02:57:29 PM Didn't realise Dignatis would assist paraplegics? Can understand that people who are paralysed from the neck down have zero life quality, but surely having use of the top half of your body and being able to speak, eat and breath on your own is a hugely different scenario?
I see the insurance company was being sc*m as usual. Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: Laxie on March 12, 2012, 03:11:09 PM Pro ainec
Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: Somerled on March 12, 2012, 03:20:38 PM Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: ManuelsMum on March 12, 2012, 03:24:45 PM I had to write an essay on this once as well as take part in a debate. Cliffs = Pro Euthanasia, should be made legal. We had to give speeches in class when we were 16, on a topic of our choice. One of my classmates stood up and announced that she was going to talk on this. I was expecting stuff about chinese 16 year olds, spent the whole time wondering wtf she was going on about. Every time I hear the word mentioned I think back to this and cringe inside a little. Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: outragous76 on March 12, 2012, 03:27:10 PM Pretty sure anyone who has watched a loved one die of a terminal illness that wasn't quick nor peaceful would be pro
I don't care what anyone tells me about pain relief, you should be able to choose! I find it mind boggling that because of 1 doctor (shipman) people now have to live out their days irrespective of condition! Whoever made that decision should be forced to watch people fade away, preferably their own,, they would soon change their minds (yes it's an emotive subject for me and I doubt I will post again) Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: ManuelsMum on March 12, 2012, 03:32:28 PM Pretty sure there are plenty of involuntary euthanicides in the UK. Hospitals full, staff stretched to the limit, a 90 year old shows up and they 'don't quite do their best' or fail to resuscitate.
Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: aaron1867 on March 12, 2012, 03:42:41 PM I've read about these stories a few times, not just the ones related to the UK either.
Everytime I've read about it the person who helps with the killing actually has nothing done to them, so interesting to read that something might be done to the law to help them go through the process of a court case. Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: DaveShoelace on March 12, 2012, 04:07:29 PM Having seen my Father pass away 3 yrs ago from Cancer and remembering what a proud/strong man he was and what that put him through I would be pro Euthanasia camp as once he knew it was terminal if he could have flicked the switch then I am 100% sure he would have! My own father died suddenly, unexpectadley, and instantly. It was obv brutal for us, but I know 100% from years of talking to him on the subject that it was the exact way he wanted to go. No suffering, no worrying, no loss of basic functions, no loss of dignity. I have a good friend whose father went through what it sounds like your own Father did, and I am eternally thankful my own Dad didn't. Deffo pro if there is no hope for a cure, and the person is suffering. However, interestingly regarding this particular case, someone who had the same condition went on to write a best selling book that was turned into a movie, and it is one of the best books I ever read. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Diving-Bell-Butterfly-Jean-Dominique-Bauby/dp/0007139845 Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: smashedagain on March 12, 2012, 05:19:55 PM 100% pro camp. Very selfish and personal reasons in the main but I think those suffering and no chance of a decent quality of life have a right to decide.
Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: kinboshi on March 12, 2012, 05:27:48 PM Everyone should have the right to live their lives as they want (without infringing on the rights of others), and that should include the way they want it to end.
Of course there need to be strict legal processes in place to prevent people from coercing others into euthanasia/suicide, but in principle if someone wants to die then they should be able to. If they're physically incapable of doing it, then they should be assisted. Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: nirvana on March 12, 2012, 07:45:39 PM A lot of times, even serious pain relief can't touch the suffering some people go through.
A blessed release is a merciful act and should be allowed imo Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: RED-DOG on March 12, 2012, 09:23:24 PM Pro.
Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: vegaslover on March 12, 2012, 09:36:44 PM 100% Pro.
I find it bizarre that humanity will put down an animal that is dying and in pain but wont let a human in the same position be allowed to Title: Re: The Right to Die Post by: Hairydude on March 12, 2012, 09:41:06 PM Didn't realise Dignatis would assist paraplegics? Can understand that people who are paralysed from the neck down have zero life quality, but surely having use of the top half of your body and being able to speak, eat and breath on your own is a hugely different scenario? I see the insurance company was being sc*m as usual. Shit sorry typo; neck down And yes hugely scummy; anything to get out- just numbers to them; no room for morals/compassion |