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Title: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: Pugwashed on March 23, 2012, 10:00:14 PM
All payers unknown. Thoughts on turn and river? Sizing?

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $162.18
SB: $109.80
BB: $363.23
UTG: $51.14
Hero (MP): $433.93
CO: $211.03

Pre-Flop:  Jc  Qc dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $2.50, CO calls $2.50, BTN folds, SB calls $2, BB raises to $14, Hero calls $11.50, CO calls $11.50, SB calls $11.50

Flop: ($56)  5d  Td  6h (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($56)  Qs (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $28, CO calls $28, SB folds, BB calls $28

River: ($140)  Jh (3 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $69, CO folds, BB raises to $148, Hero ?


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: pleno1 on March 23, 2012, 10:01:09 PM
fold pre.


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: cambridgealex on March 23, 2012, 11:20:06 PM
Villain has AK no?

Sizing nice, maybe turn can be 32 but nitpicking really


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: pleno1 on March 23, 2012, 11:37:39 PM
think turn sizing is too small
i prefer38ish

pre is 100% a fold, i think river is toiugh, def def bet, but i think b/f is best


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: pokerfan on March 23, 2012, 11:42:01 PM
think turn sizing is too small
i prefer38ish

pre is 100% a fold, i think river is toiugh, def def bet, but i think b/f is best

Pre open or call ?

Don't hate the raise personally.


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: pleno1 on March 24, 2012, 12:30:17 AM
fold to the 3bet..


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: Honeybadger on March 24, 2012, 06:39:31 AM
Also, is 2.5x your standard open size from MP? Because if it is, then it shouldn't be. And if you vary based on strength of your hand then you shouldn't do.


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: JK on March 24, 2012, 07:05:01 AM
fold to the 3bet..

Defo this. Never folding QJ sooooooted even if theres a gun to my head, but it plays fairly badly in 3b pots, especially this deep. Obv we can flop mooooonster draws but thats all we want to flop...


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: pleno1 on March 24, 2012, 12:24:30 PM
fwiw i would prefer qjcc 200bbs deep rather than 100bb deep.


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: Pugwashed on March 24, 2012, 06:33:48 PM
fwiw i would prefer qjcc 200bbs deep rather than 100bb deep.

But not 360bb deep?


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: Pugwashed on March 24, 2012, 06:38:23 PM
Also, is 2.5x your standard open size from MP? Because if it is, then it shouldn't be. And if you vary based on strength of your hand then you shouldn't do.

I do not vary my opening sizes based on hand strength. Usually my standard for 6max cash would be 3x from MP. The new Zoom games on stars seemed to be playing reasonably tight so I was trying out 2.5xing, as I play more I might go back to my 'standards' or I might keep opening smaller if I think its better


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: Honeybadger on March 24, 2012, 06:50:40 PM
Also, is 2.5x your standard open size from MP? Because if it is, then it shouldn't be. And if you vary based on strength of your hand then you shouldn't do.

I do not vary my opening sizes based on hand strength. Usually my standard for 6max cash would be 3x from MP. The new Zoom games on stars seemed to be playing reasonably tight so I was trying out 2.5xing, as I play more I might go back to my 'standards' or I might keep opening smaller if I think its better

That is a very good adjustment.

Will be interesting to see how the texture of the Zoom games turns out. I remember when Rush first came out - it turned from a nit-fest to a spazz-fest pretty quickly.


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: muckthenuts on March 25, 2012, 09:49:05 AM
It's super hard for him to show up with air. Guess he's probs got 98s or AK and sighhhhh fold. What did he have when you called?

Also Pleno were you aware of how deep eff stacks were when you said fold QJs to the 3b?


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: Pugwashed on March 25, 2012, 01:26:34 PM
It's super hard for him to show up with air. Guess he's probs got 98s or AK and sighhhhh fold. What did he have when you called?

Also Pleno were you aware of how deep eff stacks were when you said fold QJs to the 3b?

I know you'll never ever believe this but I actually folded for once


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: titaniumbean on March 26, 2012, 05:08:34 PM
I like/get the reasoning for 2.5x pre, tho I think could be interesting 4xing in Zoom when people are so ridic deep and basing opening sizes purely on stack sizes as they change.


regardless I'd bet turn bigger and fold river pretty quick.




As a random aside, does anyone who posts here know the OP in person? if so can you reply here or shoot me a pm pls. ta


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: Pugwashed on March 26, 2012, 05:34:29 PM
Assuming you're lsaw2 on 2+2? I sent you a pm there


Title: Re: 100NL 6max Zoom, deep multiway 3b pot
Post by: titaniumbean on March 26, 2012, 05:37:23 PM
Assuming you're lsaw2 on 2+2? I sent you a pm there

 ;busted;