Title: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on March 31, 2012, 07:42:45 AM Here are the selections:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aia1Hxq-NDNWdGgwNUR2cWFmdVNsU1JYWElyb21BMGc I am pleased to announce this year's Blonde US Masters Tipster Competition. The rules are as follows: 1. Entry is open to everyone upon payment of a £25 entry fee to me. I will PM my bank details to everyone who has expressed even a remote interest (see next post). Payment must be received by me before 9am on Thursday 5th April. If you are interested, please indicate below or PM me. 2. Each entrant will pick one selection in each of the categories below. The selection must either be for a £2 win or a £1 each-way bet. Winnings will be settled on the basis of the prices that I will post by mid-night Tuesday. These prices will be taken from SkyBet or other sites if these markets are not available on SkyBet. The categories are: Top US player Top British Isles player Top Continental Europe player Top Aussie Top Asian Top South African Top Debutant Top senior player Leader after round 1 3. The organiser reserves the right to substitute other markets if prices for these markets are not available on Tuesday. 4. The place component of an each-way bet will be decided using 1/4 the odds for a win. The number of places paid in each market will be determined by me when I post the lists on Tuesday and know how many runners there are in each market. 5. I will be using http://www.masters.com/ for the purpose of deciding the result of each market. 6. Entries must be sent to me via PM by 9am on Thursday 5th April. I will then make everyone's selections available via a spreadsheet to which I will post a link on this thread by 10am that day. 7. The winner will be the person who makes most profit (or least loss) over the course of the tournament. 8. Each person may enter the competition up to 3 times at a cost of £25 per entry. 9. My decision is final in all matters (until proven otherwise). Have fun. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on March 31, 2012, 07:43:20 AM Those who have expressed an interest so far are:
bobby1 (x2) PAID SELECTED tikay (x2) PAID SELECTED claypole PAID SELECTED horseplayer PAID SELECTED Karabiner PAID SELECTED Horneris PAID SELECTED The Camel PAID SELECTED Chompy PAID SELECTED Bazzaboy PAID SELECTED Alverton PAID SELECTED TheDazzler PAID SELECTED typhoon13 PAID SELECTED MajorMajor PAID SELECTED DUNK619 PAID SELECTED Dubai (x3) PAID SELECTED Royal Flush Acidmouse Silo Graham ACE2M Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on March 31, 2012, 07:59:39 AM Excellent news, Vince, thanks. I will nudge Flushy about this, I'm sure he will want in, & I'll mention it to a few others. I am assuming that prize payouts (winner only, 1st & 2nd etc) will depend on how many entrants we get. Be neat to get 20 or so runners. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on March 31, 2012, 08:03:02 AM Excellent news, Vince, thanks. I will nudge Flushy about this, I'm sure he will want in, & I'll mention it to a few others. I am assuming that prize payouts (winner only, 1st & 2nd etc) will depend on how many entrants we get. Be neat to get 20 or so runners. Thanks. I should have mentioned that payouts will be as follows: 1-10 entrants 1st 100% 11-20 entrants 1st 75% 2nd 25% 21-30 entrants 1st 60% 2nd 30% 3rd 10% >30 entrants tba Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on March 31, 2012, 08:18:39 AM £25 PAID. Vincent...... If the number of entrants are low, will you consider allowing us to "Multi-Entry" - perhaps allow more than one entry from those who wish? I'd be up for making 2 Entries, possibly 3, which can only be of benefit to the Prize Pool. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on March 31, 2012, 08:22:23 AM £25 PAID. Vincent...... If the number of entrants are low, will you consider allowing us to "Multi-Entry" - perhaps allow more than one entry from those who wish? I'd be up for making 2 Entries, possibly 3, which can only be of benefit to the Prize Pool. Absolutely, I hadn't thought of that. I just didn't think that people would be that degen - I should study my audience more closely. New rule: People may have up to 3 entries. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: The Camel on March 31, 2012, 08:23:04 AM No selection for "winner"?
In obv. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on March 31, 2012, 08:29:52 AM No selection for "winner"? In obv. The reasoning was that if you had a selection in each of the (nationality) categories you would already effectively have a winner choice and picking the same player again as overall winner would skew the results too much if you hit the jackpot. Not sure if it matters much but that's the decision we came to. Good luck. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: The Camel on March 31, 2012, 08:32:40 AM No selection for "winner"? In obv. The reasoning was that if you had a selection in each of the (nationality) categories you would already effectively have a winner choice and picking the same player again as overall winner would skew the results too much if you hit the jackpot. Not sure if it matters much but that's the decision we came to. Good luck. Too much logic for 8.30am for my liking. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: ACE2M on March 31, 2012, 09:21:59 AM yep
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Karabiner on March 31, 2012, 10:20:22 AM Shipped.
Thanks a lot for running this Vince. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Chompy on March 31, 2012, 10:20:40 AM In, yup
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on March 31, 2012, 10:22:56 AM Shipped. Thanks a lot for running this Vince. Thanks, you're welcome. Received. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Royal Flush on March 31, 2012, 10:52:59 AM In obv, Shallow will be in as well
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Bazzaboy on March 31, 2012, 12:43:54 PM In
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Alverton on March 31, 2012, 05:07:07 PM IN
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on March 31, 2012, 05:23:47 PM If we have agreed that "multi-entries" are acceptable, I'll take 2 more entries, but I don't want to be the only one who does it, so I'll hold off for now. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: bobby1 on April 01, 2012, 10:04:23 AM I will have two please, will ship later today.
Thanks Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 02, 2012, 10:20:53 AM I'll be publishing the list of players (with associated prices) for each category later today.
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: horseplayer on April 02, 2012, 10:22:03 AM i will have one entry please
will send money tommorow Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on April 02, 2012, 10:23:50 AM Thanks Vince, look forward to that. Don't forget everyone, UP TO three Entries are permitted. I almost won the Cheltenham Tipsters Thread by just selecting my horses alphabetically, which just shows, with a bit of luck & anyone can do OK. I might use a variant of the "stick a pin in" tactic for The Masters, too..... Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MajorMajor on April 02, 2012, 11:09:05 AM I'm interested, will look at the markets and probably ship monies Wednesday
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 02, 2012, 01:21:57 PM It's time for you to make your selections.
The list of prices for each of our chosen categories is available here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aia1Hxq-NDNWdGttMnh6ck5sblJzVmZUZkplaDJZUGc You need to choose one player from each category and indicate whether it is an outright or each-way selection. You have until 9am on Thursday to send me your choices by PM. I also need to have received your entry fee by the same time. Several of the categories that we chose for this competition do not have markets available at any bookie as far as I can see. Therefore I have made a slight deviation from my intention stated in the rules above. I have created prices for each of the markets by using the "Outright Winner" prices (as on SkyBet at midday today) and adjusting these to create a (near) 100% market for each of our categories. For each-way bets, the number of places that pay for each market will be as follows: Top US player 5 Top British Isles player 3 Top Continental Europe player 3 Top Aussie 2 Top Asian 2 Top South African 2 Top Debutant 3 Top senior player 2 Leader after round 1 8 In all cases, the place portion of the bet will be settled at 1/4 the odds of the outright price. If anyone has any questions/problems relating to this competition I'll be happy to answer them on this thread or via PM. Good luck and enjoy. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: bobby1 on April 02, 2012, 04:25:28 PM I'm a bit confused now Vince, all of those markets are available with almost all the firms. The problem with converting the BF outright book into sub books at 100% is the place part of every market is massive value.
I don't think 8 places on the end of round leader is a good either as because the prices are to 100% the place returns on 8 places mean you could pick one of the outsiders at the vastly inflated odds , nick a place at a qtr the odds on 8 places and virtually have a lead that mean someone else is going to have to pick a load of actual winners in other categories to catch you. The lower down the list in your end of rd leader prices the bigger the difference with the firms prices. In effect, the comp could almost be over if someone picks the end of round leader winner using the list you have used. I'm happy to go with whatever you want, it looks like its been made a lot more complicated tho than say just using the Skybet ( or any other firms) lists and taking their place odds too. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: DUNK619 on April 02, 2012, 04:29:01 PM In do i send to the same place i did for cheltenham
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 02, 2012, 04:31:12 PM I'm a bit confused now Vince, all of those markets are available with almost all the firms. The problem with converting the BF outright book into sub books at 100% is the place part of every market is massive value. I don't think 8 places on the end of round leader is a good either as because the prices are to 100% the place returns on 8 places mean you could pick one of the outsiders at the vastly inflated odds , nick a place at a qtr the odds on 8 places and virtually have a lead that mean someone else is going to have to pick a load of actual winners in other categories to catch you. The lower down the list in your end of rd leader prices the bigger the difference with the firms prices. In effect, the comp could almost be over if someone picks the end of round leader winner using the list you have used. I'm happy to go with whatever you want, it looks like its been made a lot more complicated tho than say just using the Skybet ( or any other firms) lists and taking their place odds too. Right, thanks. I'll look into it. The markets definitely weren't available at 1pm today - well not on Oddschecker anyway. Having checked now, many of them appear to be. I guess that I should have just waited a while longer. If everyone can be patient for a while, I'll have a think. Cheers... Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 02, 2012, 04:31:47 PM In do i send to the same place i did for cheltenham Yes, thanks. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: bobby1 on April 02, 2012, 04:38:22 PM I'm a bit confused now Vince, all of those markets are available with almost all the firms. The problem with converting the BF outright book into sub books at 100% is the place part of every market is massive value. I don't think 8 places on the end of round leader is a good either as because the prices are to 100% the place returns on 8 places mean you could pick one of the outsiders at the vastly inflated odds , nick a place at a qtr the odds on 8 places and virtually have a lead that mean someone else is going to have to pick a load of actual winners in other categories to catch you. The lower down the list in your end of rd leader prices the bigger the difference with the firms prices. In effect, the comp could almost be over if someone picks the end of round leader winner using the list you have used. I'm happy to go with whatever you want, it looks like its been made a lot more complicated tho than say just using the Skybet ( or any other firms) lists and taking their place odds too. Right, thanks. I'll look into it. The markets definitely weren't available at 1pm today - well not on Oddschecker anyway. Having checked now, many of them appear to be. I guess that I should have just waited a while longer. If everyone can be patient for a while, I'll have a think. Cheers... no probs mate, I have just seen your PM from last night , sorry I didn't reply sooner. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on April 02, 2012, 04:41:22 PM Please keep quiet, Mere is thinking.......... Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 02, 2012, 04:46:18 PM OK, nobody has sent any selections in since I published the list of prices.
Therefore, I am going to scrap the prices that I have published so far and we'll start again along the lines that Phil has indicated. I'll take the lists from published prices. I'll let you know when it's sorted. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on April 02, 2012, 04:49:19 PM Dammit, I have already spent hours & hours selecting mine. I shall need a new letter of the alphabet now...... Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: typhoon13 on April 02, 2012, 04:55:01 PM Vince whats the rules for Liverpool ( grand national) meeting please TIA Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 02, 2012, 04:56:09 PM Vince whats the rules for Liverpool ( grand national) meeting please TIA I'll let you know when I've made them up! Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 02, 2012, 05:33:26 PM I have amended the odds for each of the markets.
They are now inline with the odds offered by SkyBet (where available) and other bookies where SkyBet do not have prices. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: DUNK619 on April 02, 2012, 05:33:40 PM 25 sent
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 02, 2012, 05:42:09 PM I will also use the same each-way criteria as Skybet (or other bookies).
The revised each-way options are: Top US player Top 4 places paid at 1/4 odds. Top British Isles player Top 3 places paid at 1/4 odds. Top Continental Europe player Top 5 places paid at 1/4 odds. Top Aussie Top 2 places paid at 1/3 odds. Top Asian Top 2 places paid at 1/3 odds. Top South African Top 2 places paid at 1/3 odds. Top Debutant Top 3 places paid at 1/4 odds. Top senior player Top 2 places paid at 1/3 odds. Leader after round 1 Top 5 places paid at 1/4 odds. Hopefully that completes the re-organisation. Apologies for any confusion. I will be offline for the rest of the evening. If there are any further issues, please post on here. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 02, 2012, 11:47:09 PM Since no objections have been raised since I posted the amended prices, I am going to assume that they meet with general approval.
Here is the link to the spreadsheet with the prices: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aia1Hxq-NDNWdGttMnh6ck5sblJzVmZUZkplaDJZUGc Cheers. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: horseplayer on April 03, 2012, 08:32:39 AM payment sent just now (one entry) for some reason i am unable to alter my reference this morning online so it should so "000000 INTERN 9270" (whatever that means)
thanks mere very good of you again will send entry shortly Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: horseplayer on April 03, 2012, 08:58:07 AM and entry sent via pm
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: typhoon13 on April 03, 2012, 09:30:40 AM Entry sent Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Karabiner on April 03, 2012, 10:02:18 AM I'm not sure if there are any players from The Republic of Ireland but I'm assuming that:
British Isles=GB+I for the purposes of this event. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 03, 2012, 10:07:30 AM I'm not sure if there are any players from The Republic of Ireland but I'm assuming that: British Isles=GB+I for the purposes of this event. Yes. Mr. Harrington is the only (Republic of) Irishman in the field. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: typhoon13 on April 03, 2012, 06:11:00 PM Dustin Johnson withdrawn Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 03, 2012, 06:12:22 PM Dustin Johnson withdrawn People can amend their entries up until 9am on Thursday. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 03, 2012, 07:48:07 PM For clarification, I will be using dead-heat rules to settle the each-way bets.
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: claypole on April 03, 2012, 11:55:48 PM In, sent as per PM - thanks again for organising this, top man
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 04, 2012, 12:00:14 AM In, sent as per PM - thanks again for organising this, top man You're very welcome. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: bobby1 on April 04, 2012, 12:43:59 PM sent by PM mate, once again thanks for taking the time to run the comp.
cheers Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 04, 2012, 12:49:51 PM sent by PM mate, once again thanks for taking the time to run the comp. cheers You're welcome. Entries received and entered. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MajorMajor on April 04, 2012, 02:26:15 PM Can u PM me your details please mate
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 04, 2012, 02:33:28 PM Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MajorMajor on April 04, 2012, 06:06:11 PM Is Europe top 5? In a 15 runner market?
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 04, 2012, 06:09:33 PM Is Europe top 5? In a 15 runner market? Good point. That appears to be a typo. However, since people have already entered their selections, we'll have to stick with it. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 04, 2012, 09:30:37 PM A reminder to people who are still intending to enter, all selections and entry fees need to be with me before 9am tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on April 04, 2012, 09:57:02 PM Has anyone made more than one entry, Vince?
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 04, 2012, 10:01:07 PM Has anyone made more than one entry, Vince? Phil has had two. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: horseplayer on April 04, 2012, 10:06:41 PM how many entries?
looking forward to this i would like to thank mere for all his work with these "events" quite remarkable really thanks again Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 04, 2012, 10:09:18 PM how many entries? looking forward to this i would like to thank mere for all his work with these "events" quite remarkable really thanks again You're very welcome. At tikay's suggestion (I'm accepting no blame) we decided that each person could buy up to three entries. Only one person has availed himself of this "opportunity". Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Dubai on April 04, 2012, 10:13:37 PM I wil have 3 entries but prefer random selections. Don't want anyone bigger than 200s as generally that means 2000s. Is there anyway you can do me 3 totally random lucky dips? I'm sure you can come up with a formula/spreadsheet ;)
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 04, 2012, 10:15:06 PM I wil have 3 entries but prefer random selections. Don't want anyone bigger than 200s as generally that means 2000s. Is there anyway you can do me 3 totally random lucky dips? I'm sure you can come up with a formula/spreadsheet ;) Done. I'll assume that you want all outright selections unless I hear otherwise. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on April 04, 2012, 10:17:13 PM I wil have 3 entries but prefer random selections. Don't want anyone bigger than 200s as generally that means 2000s. Is there anyway you can do me 3 totally random lucky dips? I'm sure you can come up with a formula/spreadsheet ;) Done. I'll assume that you want all outright selections unless I hear otherwise. Do buck up, that took you 2 minutes to do! Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 04, 2012, 10:18:14 PM I wil have 3 entries but prefer random selections. Don't want anyone bigger than 200s as generally that means 2000s. Is there anyway you can do me 3 totally random lucky dips? I'm sure you can come up with a formula/spreadsheet ;) Done. I'll assume that you want all outright selections unless I hear otherwise. Do buck up, that took you 2 minutes to do! I've got a system. ;) Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Dubai on April 04, 2012, 10:20:15 PM Win only 19-1 or less, 20-1 or more ew. Will send later, if havent remind me pls. Post who I've got
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Karabiner on April 04, 2012, 10:38:30 PM Win only 19-1 or less, 20-1 or more ew. Will send later, if havent remind me pls. Post who I've got It's not about finding the winner Dave just in case you didn't realise, well not exactly. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 04, 2012, 10:40:13 PM Win only 19-1 or less, 20-1 or more ew. Will send later, if havent remind me pls. Post who I've got You've made some rather "brave" selections; Sean Ohair e/w Paul Casey e/w Thomas Bjorn Win Adam Scott Win K J Choi Win Trevor Immelman Win Brendan Steele e/w Bernhard Langer Win Charl Schwartzel e/w Jason Dufner e/w Darren Clarke e/w Alvaro Quiros Win Jason Day Win Hideki Matsuyama Win Rory Sabbatini Win Robert Garrigus Win Randal Lewis e/w Matt Kuchar e/w Matt Kuchar e/w Graeme McDowell Win Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano e/w Geoff Ogilvy Win Ryo Ishikawa Win Louis Oosthuizen Win Corbin Mills e/w Mark Omeara Win Hunter Mahan e/w Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Dubai on April 04, 2012, 10:43:36 PM Win only 19-1 or less, 20-1 or more ew. Will send later, if havent remind me pls. Post who I've got It's not about finding the winner Dave just in case you didn't realise, well not exactly. Yeah I meant win only for each market Had to google some of the selections to see who on earth they are What order are the markets in please? Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: typhoon13 on April 04, 2012, 10:45:03 PM Win only 19-1 or less, 20-1 or more ew. Will send later, if havent remind me pls. Post who I've got You've made some rather "brave" selections; Sean Ohair e/w Paul Casey e/w Thomas Bjorn Win Adam Scott Win K J Choi Win Trevor Immelman Win Brendan Steele e/w Bernhard Langer Win Charl Schwartzel e/w Jason Dufner e/w Darren Clarke e/w Alvaro Quiros Win Jason Day Win Hideki Matsuyama Win Rory Sabbatini Win Robert Garrigus Win Randal Lewis e/w Matt Kuchar e/w Matt Kuchar e/w Graeme McDowell Win Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano e/w Geoff Ogilvy Win Ryo Ishikawa Win Louis Oosthuizen Win Corbin Mills e/w Mark Omeara Win Hunter Mahan e/w Watch one of these waltz innnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 04, 2012, 10:46:41 PM Win only 19-1 or less, 20-1 or more ew. Will send later, if havent remind me pls. Post who I've got It's not about finding the winner Dave just in case you didn't realise, well not exactly. Yeah I meant win only for each market Had to google some of the selections to see who on earth they are What order are the markets in please? Top US player Top British Isles player Top Continental Europe player Top Aussie Top Asian Top South African Top Debutant Top senior player Leader after round 1 You were lucky, you nearly had Sandy Lyle for top British until I realised he was 201/1. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: horseplayer on April 04, 2012, 10:56:41 PM entry 2 and entry 3 dont look to bad
if somebody hits a big first round leader price there going to be very hard to catch Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: bobby1 on April 04, 2012, 11:04:05 PM entry 2 and entry 3 dont look to bad if somebody hits a big first round leader price there going to be very hard to catch yes, I might have made an error including that as you are right it will take some catching but I suppose if you pick a winner in something thats as difficult as that you prob deserve to win. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: The Camel on April 04, 2012, 11:58:45 PM shipped
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 05, 2012, 12:00:55 AM Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on April 05, 2012, 07:07:00 AM Good morning Vince. My TWO entries have been sent to you via both e-Mail, & PM. I have sent the additional £25 this morning by Bank TX. Apologies for the last minute entries. Designing an algorithm* which was guaranteed to produce a winner took longer than I expected, but my top secret computer programme, combiuned with my deep expertise in alll matters betting, eventually produced the players which will best perform, at the most cost-effective prices. *All rights pending. PS - Please note that if you make ANY mistakes in the running & management of this competition, you will be sentenced to run the Grand National Tipsters Competition. Have a good day. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 05, 2012, 07:21:40 AM Good morning Vince. My TWO entries have been sent to you via both e-Mail, & PM. I have sent the additional £25 this morning by Bank TX. Apologies for the last minute entries. Designing an algorithm* which was guaranteed to produce a winner took longer than I expected, but my top secret computer programme, combiuned with my deep expertise in alll matters betting, eventually produced the players which will best perform, at the most cost-effective prices. *All rights pending. PS - Please note that if you make ANY mistakes in the running & management of this competition, you will be sentenced to run the Grand National Tipsters Competition. Have a good day. As you know, we've already had a slight mishap. Good luck with your tips - you may need it. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on April 05, 2012, 07:35:28 AM Good morning Vince. My TWO entries have been sent to you via both e-Mail, & PM. I have sent the additional £25 this morning by Bank TX. Apologies for the last minute entries. Designing an algorithm* which was guaranteed to produce a winner took longer than I expected, but my top secret computer programme, combiuned with my deep expertise in alll matters betting, eventually produced the players which will best perform, at the most cost-effective prices. *All rights pending. PS - Please note that if you make ANY mistakes in the running & management of this competition, you will be sentenced to run the Grand National Tipsters Competition. Have a good day. As you know, we've already had a slight mishap. Good luck with your tips - you may need it. They are startlingly original. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 05, 2012, 09:22:20 AM Entry closed.
Here are the selections: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aia1Hxq-NDNWdGgwNUR2cWFmdVNsU1JYWElyb21BMGc I will also add this link to the first post so that people can find it easily. There are 19 entries so the prizes will be: 1st £356.25 2nd £118.75 Good luck. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: horseplayer on April 05, 2012, 09:24:32 AM if anybody could grab that first round leader it will be very very very hard to peg back as the other selections are quite regular
i agree though if anybody does grab that they deserve to win it Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: typhoon13 on April 05, 2012, 10:08:01 AM Good Luck everyone Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on April 05, 2012, 10:25:42 AM I am struggling to see how I will fail to win this. Incredible selection policy. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Horneris on April 05, 2012, 06:13:22 PM O'Meara has withdrawn pre tourn with a sore neck, what are the rules regarding this?
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 05, 2012, 06:18:15 PM O'Meara has withdrawn pre tourn with a sore neck, what are the rules regarding this? There are no exceptional rules for this, I'm afraid. It just counts the same as making a bad score. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Horneris on April 05, 2012, 06:18:58 PM O'Meara has withdrawn pre tourn with a sore neck, what are the rules regarding this? There are no exceptional rules for this, I'm afraid. It just counts the same as making a bad score. Nooooooooooo I assumed we would get the unnamed favourite (i.e. Couples) :'( Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 05, 2012, 06:25:42 PM O'Meara has withdrawn pre tourn with a sore neck, what are the rules regarding this? There are no exceptional rules for this, I'm afraid. It just counts the same as making a bad score. Nooooooooooo I assumed we would get the unnamed favourite (i.e. Couples) :'( That might have been a good rule (and there was an explicit equivalent rule for the Cheltenham competition) but I didn't make such a rule this time unfortunately. Sorry. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Karabiner on April 05, 2012, 07:21:22 PM O'Meara has withdrawn pre tourn with a sore neck, what are the rules regarding this? There are no exceptional rules for this, I'm afraid. It just counts the same as making a bad score. Nooooooooooo I assumed we would get the unnamed favourite (i.e. Couples) :'( That might have been a good rule (and there was an explicit equivalent rule for the Cheltenham competition) but I didn't make such a rule this time unfortunately. Sorry. I'm sorry Vince and not just because I picked MOM in the senior list but non-runner you lose is just a bad ruling. How would you feel if you had bet on a horse or the highest scoring batsman and that rule was applied? Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 05, 2012, 07:41:23 PM O'Meara has withdrawn pre tourn with a sore neck, what are the rules regarding this? There are no exceptional rules for this, I'm afraid. It just counts the same as making a bad score. Nooooooooooo I assumed we would get the unnamed favourite (i.e. Couples) :'( That might have been a good rule (and there was an explicit equivalent rule for the Cheltenham competition) but I didn't make such a rule this time unfortunately. Sorry. I'm sorry Vince and not just because I picked MOM in the senior list but non-runner you lose is just a bad ruling. How would you feel if you had bet on a horse or the highest scoring batsman and that rule was applied? I wouldn't be overjoyed but the rules have been listed since I started the thread and I feel that it would be unfair to amend them once the event has started. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: claypole on April 05, 2012, 09:37:04 PM Goooo on BUBBA
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: claypole on April 06, 2012, 12:17:18 AM Sigh - thought I'd nail that at one point, on the board though even if it is 1/3 stake at 1/4 odds lol
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on April 06, 2012, 08:08:55 AM I'm dreading seeing the Spreadsheet today. My infallible system falled. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 06, 2012, 10:53:59 AM Sigh - thought I'd nail that at one point, on the board though even if it is 1/3 stake at 1/4 odds lol You were the only person to score on the Round 1 selections. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 06, 2012, 10:55:53 AM I'm dreading seeing the Spreadsheet today. My infallible system falled. If the positions after round 1 held until round 4, the table would look like this: Tipster Total tikay-2 130.59 Chompy 48.66 Dubai-2 37.50 bobby1-2 28.16 TheDazzler 19.07 tikay-1 14.50 claypole 10.75 Dubai-3 8.66 Karabiner 8.66 Dubai-1 7.50 The Camel 7.50 Alverton 5.00 MajorMajor 5.00 DUNK619 3.67 Bazzaboy 1.44 horseplayer 1.44 bobby1-1 0.00 Horneris 0.00 typhoon13 0.00 Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Chompy on April 06, 2012, 11:01:26 AM Hold!
Blimey, you are keen sir Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 06, 2012, 11:06:25 AM Hold! Blimey, you are keen sir I was hoping that the table would look a little different, obv. I can sense an incredible warmth for Ben Crane amongst the entrants. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: bobby1 on April 06, 2012, 11:14:10 AM I'm dreading seeing the Spreadsheet today. My infallible system falled. If the positions after round 1 held until round 4, the table would look like this: Tipster Total tikay-2 130.59 Chompy 48.66 Dubai-2 37.50 bobby1-2 28.16 TheDazzler 19.07 tikay-1 14.50 claypole 10.75 Dubai-3 8.66 Karabiner 8.66 Dubai-1 7.50 The Camel 7.50 Alverton 5.00 MajorMajor 5.00 DUNK619 3.67 Bazzaboy 1.44 horseplayer 1.44 bobby1-1 0.00 Horneris 0.00 typhoon13 0.00 Tikay's write up in Timeform. 'blistering early pace' Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 06, 2012, 11:45:48 AM Due to a "feature" of the spreadsheet I allocated a couple of wins incorrectly.
It doesn't affect the placings in the table but here are the amended totals: Tipster Total tikay-2 130.59 Chompy 48.66 Dubai-2 37.50 bobby1-2 33.49 TheDazzler 18.46 tikay-1 14.50 claypole 10.15 Dubai-3 8.66 Karabiner 8.66 Dubai-1 7.50 The Camel 7.50 Alverton 5.00 MajorMajor 5.00 DUNK619 3.67 Bazzaboy 1.44 horseplayer 1.44 bobby1-1 0.00 Horneris 0.00 typhoon13 0.00 Thanks to bobby1 for spotting this. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 07, 2012, 08:49:56 AM If the positions after round 2 held until round 4, the table would look like this:
Tipster Total Dubai-2 61.50 Alverton 27.41 MajorMajor 26.70 Chompy 24.66 bobby1-2 21.91 TheDazzler 17.52 tikay-2 17.24 Dubai-3 13.16 claypole 12.25 The Camel 10.00 tikay-1 9.78 DUNK619 9.00 bobby1-1 9.00 typhoon13 9.00 Karabiner 8.66 Bazzaboy 2.88 horseplayer 2.88 Dubai-1 0.00 Horneris 0.00 Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on April 07, 2012, 08:52:41 AM Rigged. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 07, 2012, 09:21:36 AM Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MajorMajor on April 07, 2012, 12:05:29 PM I'm pretty chuffed with where I'm sitting. Need Jacobsen to do something special!
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 07, 2012, 01:53:22 PM I'm pretty chuffed with where I'm sitting. Need Jacobsen to do something special! Good luck. All to play for. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 08, 2012, 09:28:55 AM If the positions after round 3 held until round 4, the table would look like this:
Tipster Total The Camel 43.00 bobby1-2 28.16 Karabiner 27.29 Dubai-3 27.16 tikay-1 20.78 TheDazzler 16.29 horseplayer 14.88 MajorMajor 9.00 Chompy 8.66 tikay-2 5.93 Alverton 5.00 claypole 3.25 Bazzaboy 2.88 Dubai-2 0.00 DUNK619 0.00 bobby1-1 0.00 typhoon13 0.00 Dubai-1 0.00 Horneris 0.00 Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 08, 2012, 09:30:12 AM Here are everyone's selections so you know who to rail and anti-rail:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aia1Hxq-NDNWdGgwNUR2cWFmdVNsU1JYWElyb21BMGc Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on April 08, 2012, 09:52:56 AM Cripes, the cream is rising to the top now!
I'd be top if it were not for Camel, bobby, Methuselah, & Dubai. Note, by the way, that both Dubai & I used the "pin" method. Food for thought.... For the Cheltenham Tips Thread, in which I think I cashed, I used alphabetical, & my two entries in this were alphabetical, & longest names. Infallible system. Almost. Come on Peter Hanson! Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Karabiner on April 08, 2012, 11:22:55 PM What's going on, is there no "as it stands" table with three holes to go?
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 08, 2012, 11:31:22 PM What's going on, is there no "as it stands" table with three holes to go? Sorry, been far too occupied watching the coverage. Adam Scott has helped six people including you, obviously. Matt Kuchar could still do good things for Dubai. It's too close to call! Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 09, 2012, 12:27:57 AM The final table is:
Tipster Total bobby1-2 56.40 The Camel 45.00 MajorMajor 31.24 Karabiner 28.46 Alverton 22.00 tikay-1 20.78 Dubai-3 15.16 TheDazzler 10.79 Chompy 8.66 tikay-2 5.93 DUNK619 5.24 bobby1-1 5.24 Dubai-1 5.24 claypole 4.69 horseplayer 2.88 Bazzaboy 2.88 typhoon13 2.50 Dubai-2 0.00 Horneris 0.00 Please let me know if you have any complaints/objections. Congratulations to bobby1 and The Camel. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: tikay on April 09, 2012, 12:30:15 AM Yup, the cream duly rose to the top, well done Phil, and Keith.
Big thanks too, to Vince, and his magic spreadsheets, and hard work. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Chompy on April 09, 2012, 12:43:09 AM I'd like to withdraw from the competition if it's not too late?
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: Karabiner on April 09, 2012, 12:46:12 AM Well played Phil and Keith, and masterful spreadsheetery from MereVince.
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 09, 2012, 12:56:53 AM I'd like to withdraw from the competition if it's not too late? tikay's dealing with the refunds. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: bobby1 on April 09, 2012, 02:08:40 AM I don't know about cream rising to the top Tony, look at what my other line made up.Just lucky to get some good results all in one entry.
Thanks for running the comp Mere, I'm on holiday this week so keep hold of the cash for a few days and I will throw some darts at the Aintree comp with it next week. cheers Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: typhoon13 on April 09, 2012, 08:21:41 AM Well done to winners and Vince Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MajorMajor on April 09, 2012, 10:39:33 AM I think 3rd should get a min cash!
Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2012, 11:12:58 AM I should bill Sang-Moon Bae for £300+.
If he pars the last two holes I scoop da loot. Thanks for running the comp Mr Novice, good fun as always. Title: Re: THE US Masters Tipster Competition Post by: MereNovice on April 09, 2012, 11:13:15 AM I think 3rd should get a min cash! Will loads of kudos do instead? |