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10 Seats  15 Left and were on table with 7players and currently lie 13/15

Av Chips 60k

Blinds 1250/2500/300

We have 10bb's and are in the SB

The villain is the BB with 40bb's and we both know each other well, I would say his calling range will be 90%+ correct as he is a decent winner on this site.

It folds to us in the sb, how wide should we be jamming BvB here?

Don't see how his calling range can be 90% correct when even you yourself don't know what you should be shoving with?

Probs not described the best!

I mean we know each other well, so should we be happy jamming lighter than normal or the reverse as we cant fold to a seat and know he will call correctly?

Ie  jam 56cc, Q7o etc etc

why would you jam light if he knows you and will call correctly 90% of the time you do this?

Well if you think he's calling correctly 90% of the time then I suppose you should only jam the unexploitable hands.

This. You need to be unexploitable. I'd guess something like JKs, 66+ but would need someone like Longy to confirm.

Might even be tough for him to know with it being a sat.

I certainly wouldn't be shoving light if this guy's calling correctly 90% of the time. Basically what you're saying is that if you shove 56 90% of the time he'll call you if he finds the mighty 57.

I mean, if he's playing correctly, he'll be folding almost everything right?

So we should jam ATC?

Edit: Thought there were 13 seats not 10. Principle still applies to some extent though. He's a virtual lock for a seat?

I'd be jamming quite a wide range. He shouldn't be calling too light at this stage And we probably won't be able to pass spots like this too many times

No only 10 seats and yes he is pretty much a lock.

What's your calling range for him?

User name on Villan rich?

disagree that he's a lock for a seat yet unless there're a lot of ministacks we've not been told about. he has 1.5x average chips and we still have to lose a third of the remaining players

He is 3/15, 3 players with 10-12 bb's and a sit out stack of 25bb's

surely he folds everything but aa?

seat is locked.

if you know for a fact he's not going to make a bad call then, jam ATC ainec.

It depends on what Eso meant by getting it right 90% of the time.

If it's that the guy's a good satellite player and won't make any mistakes then yes it's a shove atc.

If it's that the guy knows what you're shoving with and will call with better then it's very different.

On reflection I think it is more of this and therefore we should only be jamming the top end of our range then?

if its that rich your friend is a fish. Still jamming what i would in this spot in an mtt then Ax+ Kx+ most Q's  anything suited etc.

I jammed Q7o

think its fine

Any 2 if he knows his satellite ICM shizzle. Would begin to fold out maybe the bottom 5-10% if you think he's gunna make some sort of lol call with AJs

I think the Villan understands ICM to mean ice-cream van IMO :)

Yeah I am atc against anyone with a clue. Start chopping off the bottom of your range the more incomptent villain is. Think I would shove q7o against anyone who hasn't proved to be an utter headcase.

ATC is profitable with ICM, and Q7o is the nuts, has an overcard to JJ ;) which is probably (well should be) the bottom of his calling range i would guess?

The bottom of his calling range was way lower than JJ   ;)

It definitely shouldnt be much lower. ICM > ranges

Then you need to re-evaluate this


Still definitely shoving Q7o vs anyone though

What's it a satellite for? If it's a low buy in I think you can factor in the mate's spite call factor as well.

He probably knows that even if he's ahead he should fold but thinks he'll call with K2 because he knows you're shoving very wide and any king is enormous.

Assuming it's DTD this argument won't stand up in court.

Maybe gave him too much credit for correct calling range in a satty.

£150 DTD tourney  ^^ is probs his thinking

Ok am happy my shove and thinking of atc is ok and that the villains call is pretty meh with K7o.

Thx for replies

Urgh

88 would be pretty meh, K7o is a funeral pyre

DTD sats are amazing value because of exactly this. If you get anything like a decent stack you can sit on it and wait while everyone else knocks each other out.

They're slowly getting a few decent players but the bad ones still dominate the fields.

lol @ K7o.

THIS!

It seems as though many of the players forget they're trying to win a seat by finishing in the top ten (or whatever it pays), and instead they want to try and win hands they shouldn't actually be in.

So I guess Rich's question should have been:

"Donk in a satellite is on the BB and is likely to call very wide with all sorts of shite. What do I shove with BvB?"

Played it fine imo

I probably call AA but that might a mistake. Average is 24 bigs so he's not a complete lock given that tables will get shorthanded too

Why do u think  the seat is locked