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£1/2 live game 6 handed.

I've just sat down and this is literally the second hand. The hand before, I folded on the button but exposed the Ahrt as I did so. I'm not sure if this immediately gives me a nitty image, but I've never seen villain before so this is all he has to go on as far as info on me.

Info on villain: obviously none, but he handles chips confidently and he folded the last hand as if he'd folded a thousand hands in his life, so it's safe to assume he's an experienced player even if not a good one. Playing £160~ we cover.

Villain is the £4 straddle, folded to us in cutoff, we make it £15 with Aspades Ac. Folded to villain who calls.

Flop (£33) Ahrt 7c 5s

He checks, I bet £23. He pretty quickly makes it £48 so he has £100 back. We??

Personally i'd flat and play it in position, let him bet 3 streets, re-raise any potential draws on the turn. If he's going to shut down on the turn he's going to shut down to a re-raise on the flop so let him hang himself.

I thought by just flatting I'm turning my hand face up (not my actual hand ofc 'cause it's the at the very top, but my hand strength ie. a hand that I'm not folding.) Therefore if he has even a small piece of this board it's better to jam as I can rep more bluffs.

When I flat the flop, he only has £100 behind, so I feel like he must think that I'll call off a turn barrel and thus not bet the turn. By calling I am repping a hand that MIGHT sometimes fold to a turn jam for example non-two pair aces up to AT and 99-KK.

If he has a thin value hand, his intention might have been to checkraise get it in. Whereas ofc most people would make it bigger, he has a higher success rate of repping an actual hand if he clicks it back. If he has 87/76/75/A2-AJ and I guess 86 and 64, I feel like these might fall into the "sigh call it off it's time to go home" category, but if I flat is he barreling these hands?

Perhaps it's not nearly as close as I'm making it out to be, but would be interesting to see what others think.

What would you do if you had: i) AK, AQ; ii) AJ, AT; iii) 77, 55, 57; iv) A7, A5?
I guess play your hand like you had a hand from i, iii or iv?
Super dry board so doubt he's bluffing, lol if he's raising AJo for 'info'.  I suppose get it in on the flop with shaking hands!

23 to 48. Lets find out if he has an Ace.

I'd flat, give him chance hang himself on further on the turn, then turn up the heat for his stack
If you raise your folding out potential dead money he may put in on the turn. If he doesnt fire turn, after chk-raising you then you win anyway.

 bigger pre

flat flop, if hes bluffing then he can continue on the turn and will do more often than if we cib. if he has a value hand hes going broke on turn anyway.

Defo just call

cawl

really?

Shake your head, do a Belton grimmace, and utter under your breath "always a bloody ace on the flop".

Then reluctantly call.

He doesn't know you, so it might work.

he has 75+ or he's bluffing imo so we basically HAVE to just call now i think.

All in

you must have lost the hand to post this Sean?   ;gobsmacked;

why?

I'm more balanced than you think. I win some hands I post in PHA. Sometimes just feel like my thought processes are miles off.

Because Zerofive has stated that he thinks the guy is a experienced player, so imo from his info he has a understanding of the game.. Obv not any hands played together etc.

U have bet £23 he makes it £48, screams strength to me, what's he bluffing with? If he has a 78/56 them sort of hands, he can call and re evaluate, bare ace, same thing, the 86 he might just call, or he can raise therefore u have Ur customer, I think he has either 75 or 55 or 86, therefore if he is drawing make him pay, and if he has a hand then it's going in anyway. Don't think on this board he is gonna bluff, if he is bluffing what's he trying to make you fold on this texture? I would just be thinking what he trying to think and lean more towards strength.

And secondly, if there is a chance he is semi bluffing, or weak aces etc, I actually think by playing it this way, u can get him to call u real light, as, if u had AA or AK/AQ or some other strong hand, many players would expect u to flat, this way u disguise your hand and get paid if he wants to be a hero.

If I was playing a fruitcake (someone like me), then yeah by all means flat and let them set fire to there money.

I also like to use those 2 words "ALL IN" whilst playing poker frequently.

Anything other than calling seems pretty bad IMO.  Made hands you stack regardless, if he's decided to play a draw aggressively he's prob going to barrel turn ( and if he checks turn you can check back/bet small to induce etc), if he is raising for info give him a chance to improve his weakish made hand, if he's raising a weak draw (I.e. Back door flush/ gunshot/bottom pair) give him a chance to see a turn card which may give him a bit more equity and encourage him to put the rest of his chips in.  If he has a total bluff which does happen now and again raising loses your customer.
By flatting you are not turning your hand face up - do you never flat a raise on a draw?
Basically you want your hand to look as weak as possible to convey maximum weakness you can fold (not recommended), moderate weakness - call,  minimum weakness raise.

yh, they'll never see this one coming.

I do get what your saying, and the statement makes sense. I still stand by sometimes in different situations vs different players, I will play it the way I said above. For example if I'm playing someone of your standard or lets say Alex, someone like that, I like the shove as you will rarely be putting me on this hand, and a lot of the time will pay it off. If I just flat the flop, are u just getting it in regardless with weaker hands? small Ax 5x 7x hands etc?, surely this is just burning money?, and if u are playing vs someone that knows what they are doing, by them flatting, they usually have it. I find being in front of the person is a massive advantage, so this would always be played depending on the player. Online, I agree, flat and let them fire off on the turn, as you have no other info except there raise.

Yes a good villain can be 90% sure you're not folding if you flat here. However they can be 100% sure you're not folding if you shove.

You 'might' fold...

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brilliant.