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Only second big live event
Had a very good opening table with some Dutch Youngsters who were happy to give me chips

Been at this new table for a about 2.5 hours, only real trouble was 2 to my left - young guy from Northern Ireland, very agressive although I already got a couple of 3/4k pots off him when I have come back at him and have him covered

He has 40k
I have 45k

Blinds 200/400 with a 50 ante

I am in the Cut Off with  Ad Kd

Raise to 900

Villian re raises to 1900 which I think he could be doing with a lot of hands

ME?

Where is he?

I'd call. Don't wanna get in 100bigs, and 4b/folding is awful so calling is the only option in or out of position I think.

He's in the Small Blind

even better, now we're IP. call.

Thanks
Obviously I totally over played this hand as I re raised him to something like 6/7 thousand only for him to min raise me again and for me to shove (based on his agressive image and for me to get a big stack - didn't need to do this as rest of the table was pretty easy)
Felt pretty stupid driving back down the M1 "why do I always f**k up with AK"

Hey Alex, I've been having this problem a bit myself recently. Suppose the 3-better is on the button. Can you really call OOP? Most advice I've seen says to never call 3-bets OOP (including some advice by Keys) if you aren't deep (deep in this case being a lot more than 100bb). If you follow that advice, you are pretty much resigned to folding AKs, which seems a shame, or getting 100bb in. What do you do?

Id call the 3bet here

if you dont want to play oop, then including hands like AKs in your calling range and not 4b/calling super wide will help you alot as your range will be alot stronger and alot of different boards.

As played I just call and play the streets, however if you and this is hopefully coming across as nice as possible, dont have an edge on this good, young aggro guy, then 4b/calling is probably the right option for you.

I feel this totally depends on previous dynamics/who the villain is.

Has he 3b/f out of the sb previously? Or was it post flop that you won the pots vs him?

I mean 4b/f with this much equity is obv a joke. 4b/jam seems pretty spewy, no matter how aggro he has been, I doubt he's ever 5b'ing lighter this early (not always a good forecast but a very reasonable assumption imo). If the guy is decent he 'could' 5b/f parts of his 3b range off a 100bb stack, wouldn't say it would happen a large % tho.

I think I prefer calling and assessing the flop. I know we hardly ever realise the equity of our hand this way, but with 100bigs I don't see why we NEED to.

EDIT: yah see above, took some time to type that on my phone.

Did nearly type this out. Tried to express this on a friend who called off sixty big blinds with AQo from a limp/4bet-jam in the same tournie. If you can't see any other method of getting chippies from the villain (seeing as your oop), then fine get it in on your 'read'. But reasoning that you must take a 60/40 edge for a 100bigs is pretty bad this early imo.

Also, people who chase the chip lead early on (which I'm pretty certain was a large part of your decision making process in this hand?) are pretty lol. In my opinion these people tend to either have a huge ego, or they're pretty insecure about their own playing ability so seeing their name up top and receiving the oi oiiiiiii's makes them feel wonderful about life.

I think the better tournament strategy is to be on top at the end, not the beginning.

Fair Comments
I wasn't OOP though I was in position
I would have taken a differet line against everyone else on the table (Had earlier folded Jacks on the Button to a Tight Players Small Blind over raise)
Guess I was far too agressive in this spot and probably got blinded by my preception of the Villian and the fact he did play back at me in a couple of hands but I was able to out agro him
To be fair ended up as a Cock Waiving War and he had the Aces (Agressive Player in the Small Blind has Aces FML)
Defo should have slowed down as I had a very nice table apart from him

I think flatting ip is obv correct, but i find it hard to criticise a line which gets it in vs someone aggro. I would not be surprised to see spew from someone in a tourney like this, especially if you have some game, which appears likely, even if you thought he had a slight edge on you overall. I've seen and heard of so many ridiculous shoves in these things, and may have even done one or two spewtastic things myself, things far worse than getting AKs in here.

I would also make the comment that for my Second Big Live Torney (I am an Amatuer!) I found it to be a lot easier than the first (which was a GUKPT Main where I had Simon Deadman, The young guy who had won a WSOPE can't rember his name, 2 Sky Players and Joe Grech on my table - that was very difficult) as a lot of the players were very easy to play against and I did not seem to get into many difficult spots which makes me think I should have played with a bit more caution against an obviously better player. I also enjoyed the lack of limping which I often find at my local casino and you often left scrathing your head where you are even when you raise with a Big Hand and you get 5 callers!
Looks like todays field is a lot tought tho!

Pinchop73

"I think the better tournament strategy is to be on top at the end, not the beginning"

That is a good strategy

flat the 3b.. 2 reasons:

1. if he rates us as a player hes more likely to not piss around with us as much (especially oop) and therefore 3betting out of the SB is pretty strong.
2. our hand is fairly under-repped as alot of people people, especially live in my experiences would be 4betting AK.

also if hes quite aggro yet quite good.. hes more likely to barrel + go for thin value.. which is good for us if we have hands

Hard to argue against really.

Villian was Mark O'Connor from Southern Ireland - slight skill differational based on our respective results!