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Title: Easy Fold?
Post by: Rod on April 15, 2012, 11:55:09 AM
I didn't play this hand the best but I have got myself in the situation what do I do now?

PokerStars Hand #78892861274:  Omaha Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2012/04/15 11:39:53 WET [2012/04/15 6:39:53 ET]
Table 'Danae IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: ChaoRasma Lv ($23.69 in chips)
Seat 2: diegojflores ($22.08 in chips)
Seat 3: taragon1 ($17.79 in chips)
Seat 4: AAroddersAA ($59.21 in chips)
Seat 5: keksas88 ($6.97 in chips)
Seat 6: SAS28 ($29.18 in chips)
keksas88: posts small blind $0.05
SAS28: posts big blind $0.10
ChaoRasma Lv: posts the ante $0.02
diegojflores: posts the ante $0.02
taragon1: posts the ante $0.02
AAroddersAA: posts the ante $0.02
keksas88: posts the ante $0.02
SAS28: posts the ante $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AAroddersAA [Kc Td 9c 6d]
ChaoRasma Lv: calls $0.10
diegojflores: folds
keksas88 said, "lol"
taragon1: calls $0.10
AAroddersAA: raises $0.50 to $0.60
keksas88 said, "called last time"
keksas88 said, "and fold now?"
keksas88 said, "sense makes?"
keksas88: folds
SAS28: folds
ChaoRasma Lv: calls $0.50
taragon1: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [2s Jd Kd]
ChaoRasma Lv: checks
taragon1: checks
AAroddersAA: bets $1.65
ChaoRasma Lv: calls $1.65
taragon1: calls $1.65
*** TURN *** [2s Jd Kd] [3s]
ChaoRasma Lv: checks
taragon1: checks
AAroddersAA: bets $4
ChaoRasma Lv: calls $4
taragon1: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [2s Jd Kd 3s] [6c]
ChaoRasma Lv: checks
taragon1: bets $9.90
AAroddersAA: ?????

Info - Taragon is playing 70/13 (100 Hands) and I have a note on him that says "Will call down with just TPTK on wet board" I have not seen him show a bluff yet
ChaoRasma is play 31/15 I have no read.
I am playing 28/20

This is a standard fold or isn't it?
Should I play the Turn different?


Title: Re: Easy Fold?
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 15, 2012, 01:17:25 PM
I would c/f the turn personally you've picked up way too much traffic to get a bet through here imo and there is almost certainly better made hands and better draws out there.

OTR i'd be super tempted to call as I'd expect him to size his random 4-5's bigger but it's a really odd bluff line. In fact I'd call here quite a bit but it's so messy with the other player behind


Title: Re: Easy Fold?
Post by: Rod on April 15, 2012, 01:57:32 PM
I honestly felt it was a call at the time. I then looked back over it as part of looking back through my hand history and came up with this (most likely flawed) logic.

On the flop I have an OK but not great hand but good enough to bet, I am also holding blockers to the Flush draw if that is what somebody has. When they both call I think they have to be on some kind of draw, as K-J or a set would raise on that board usually. The turn does not change anything so I bet again thinking if they have slowed played something they raise and I will fold and if they are drawing at least I am charging them and they will most likely check on the river anyway if they miss. Both of them calling was unexpected, I thought at least one of them would raise or fold. I can't see them having a big hand here. The river misses every draw they could have had on the flop. I expect it to check to me and I was going to check. Then when he put the bet in it looked to small to a really big hand I did not see what he could have. I folded anyway of course but really felt like I should have called.

I understand why I should check the turn though as then I would have been able to call a bet on the river seen the showdown and still probably lost less in the hand than I did. If I do check the turn and he bets $4 on the river do I call or is a fold still better?


Title: Re: Easy Fold?
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 15, 2012, 05:44:07 PM
OH didn't realise you were IP, thought you were in the middle of the three.

You should pretty much pot the turn imo, its a spot you defo should be betting some decent amount of the time and this is a pretty good hand IMO because a Q or a diamond could very legitimatly win you the hand anyways (you wont often be able to Vbet diamonds tho) if you had a SLIGHTLY better hand I'd be more for checking back.

Also sets and KJ will not defo re-raise the flop this deep. c/r naked KJ would be really bad on this flop.