Title: KK Preflop Post by: Pokerversity on April 16, 2012, 12:09:47 AM Appreciate your help on this one. Think I played it horribly, but not sure what best line would have been. I'll just tell you what happened:
UKIPT Side Event, £330 buy-in 280 runners (ish) 10k starting stack Blinds 200/400 ante 50 Average chips at this point 22k ish Me: 60k Villian: 34k Villian 2: 28k I was on the BB. Villian raised to 1050 from mid position. He had shown raises with J10, J9s, KQs, this sort of range. SB Villian 2 reraised to 3k. Villan 2 very tight, not played a hand. I observed Villian not reacting much when looking at his cards, didn't think he had a premium hand. Villian 2 was different, tense body, fast heartbeat, trying to engage waitress etc. I was concerned he had AA. I decided to smooth call, and Villian 2 called as well. (I did this because I thought I was facing AA and may need to hit Q:what would have been best) I called 3k, Villian called as well. Flop: 10h 8h 4d (Pot 9450) SB Villian 2 checks. I bet 6k Villian calls Villian 2 folds Turn: 6d (Pot 21450) I bet 16k (Q: I did this because I thought he had a drawing hand and I wanted to close it out. I now think it was wrong, but what would be best) Villian goes all-in for 25k I call, when I should have folded and I know I should have. He tables 1010. The third guy in the pot preflop really fked me on this one. What would have been better? Views much appreciated Will Title: Re: KK Preflop Post by: pleno1 on April 16, 2012, 12:17:36 AM cold 4 pre, its the rage at the moment and you wont get the reespect you deserve, these guys dont fold big hands and can go into hood mode q often. Like leading flop but prefer 4100.
Oon the the turn u are never bluffing, because of ur overly large bet otf uts made it very awkward ott, u cant shove, and u cant bet 10k, betting 16 is basically retarded too. I much prefer, 4100, 8700, jam. Title: Re: KK Preflop Post by: outragous76 on April 16, 2012, 12:20:32 AM keep raising pre until you have all your chips in the middle and really dont worry if he shows you an A with another A, these things happen (and you will be left wth 2x ave)
Title: Re: KK Preflop Post by: Pugwashed on April 16, 2012, 02:20:10 AM I kinda hate cold calling 3bets tho it might not always be unreasonable. Here I just make it 6525 and get it in. As for the flop, on drier boards or against decent players I'd probably go for sizing similar to pleno's suggestion but on a wet board like this and against fish I'd be much more likely to size it on the bigger side so I could bet flop, shove turn. Reason's being that betting for protection is more important on wet boards, and there are more scare cards that might let them get away from worse hands that could come on later streets and I doubt random fish ever fold QQ/JJ if you bet flop, shove turn but might be more likely to fold to 3 streets (especially as thats one extra street for scary cards to come).
Title: Re: KK Preflop Post by: youthnkzR on April 16, 2012, 06:51:50 PM keep raising pre until you have all your chips in the middle and really dont worry if he shows you an A with another A, these things happen (and you will be left wth 2x ave) Title: Re: KK Preflop Post by: muckthenuts on April 18, 2012, 07:53:39 PM Yeah 4bet pre. Less on flop/turn to give us some manoverability
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