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This is a hand which is interesting and I thought it would be a good one to post on here and see what people in general thought of it. I think I play it badly.

It is Zoom Poker and the hand involves me, and two reasonably tight players (there seem to be lot's of them in Zoom at little stake's). I am OTB and have a good hand, it would obviously be better double suited but it is still really strong. I get an open from EP playing 100BB and I reraise it and then get a call from a player playing 250BB. This is the player I really want to play against in the hand, I have a nice post flop hand and and position on another big stack. When the original raiser pots it I 'know' he has aces. I don't want the third player in the pot to fold as I want the pot to be three way so I flat call (is this wrong). It's not impossible that the OOP player also has aces and if he does then he will probably want to get it in here and I can then get it in pre against then both. If he flats I can play him on good flops for me and get away from in position and get away on bad flops. He calls and the flop is not that great for me just giving me a bad straight draw - I have very few nut out's. The bigger stack puts in a bet 1/3 of the pot which looks weakish to me, I now feel a bit more confident about my hand. AA (probably) guy shoves and so I am now getting 5/1 on my call so I call looking to hit the straight (bad on a flushing board?).

The turn is a blank and he checks to me, I am happy to check behind and would have folded to a shove. The river completes my straight, he checks and I am fairly happy i have the best hand. The all-in guy may have the nut flush but there is not much I can do about him now. Should I be value betting this river after he checks to me he could easily check a small flush or KT here right so I should check?

The questions I really have:-

Should I just be getting it in preflop?
Should I fold on the flop to the bet?
Should I bet the river?

PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) ZOOM - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): $26.64
SB: $25.75
BB: $18.72
UTG: $32.06
MP: $10.05
CO: $10.38

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 7h 9d Td 8d

fold, MP raises to $0.35, fold, Hero raises to $1.20, SB calls $1.15, fold, MP raises to $4.90, Hero calls $3.70, SB calls $3.70

Flop: ($14.80, 3 players) 2h Jc Qc
SB bets $5.00, MP raises to $5.15 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.15, SB calls $0.15

Turn: ($30.25, 3 players) 4h
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($30.25, 3 players) 9c
SB checks, Hero checks

fold the flop. Very simple flop fold imo your equity vs any action is so bad and you have very few nut outs and no immediate equity (you have TEN high right now)

Should I just shove pre or is this really bad?

I can get it in Vs the guy I have on AA with dead money in the pot, or is there not enough dead money in the pot? Any case for folding pre? Should I flat the original raise rather than 3-bet?

Pretty sure its better to see a flop and then get it in if you flop reasonably against AA, with your kind of hand that can flop big you want to see the flop with more people in.

Cool, I assume I shouldn't be folding this hand pre when in position?
Is the 3-bet bad or OK with this kind of a hand?

Trying to work it out in Odds Oracle but can't remember how.

The 3-bet is fine as it also disguises your hand but you still need to hit the flop.

3bet is fine, calling the 3bet absolutly fine.

I wouldn't 5bet because you're very deep with the SB and him overcalling your 3bet once you pot again he could very easily flick it in with something pretty lose because it LOOKS like you two both have ACES so if he has like  Qh Js 8h 7s he's going to be loving his life and even some way worse hands than that - most of which will prolly crush you unless he shows up with 5678ds or something which would be best case for us.

We've done fine pre-flop. Just chk fold the flop and life's good WP.

Our equity vs both ranges is likely very poor. Really steer away from non-nut draws in spots like this when youre 250bb's deep as the ONLY card you can value bet on is an offsuit 8. If you're going to go nutso on these boards then DEFO don't buy in for 250big blinds.

+1.

Peel pre is fine, but although the flop looks decent (we have 13 outs to make a straight.... wooop!) There are only 3 clean outs and our opp's ranges smash this board and likely take away a lot of our outs, so we can almost never win a big pot, but reverse-implied odds OTF are huge.