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UKIPT Nottingham. 600/1200 level towards the end of Day 1.

It's a button v SB v BB situation.

Button 55k
SB 30k
BB 35k

Folded round to the button, who raises to 2500.

SB shoves.

BB...?

In a vacuum, assuming the players don't know each other and haven't been on the same table for long, what range are we assigning to the SB, and therefore what would you need to call from the BB?

After we get some opinions on that, I'll post up who the players are to see how that influences thoughts.

I'm calling really tight in a vaccum JJ+ and ak

Players and history really start to matter here. However the button as his stake is larger quite possibly is weakening his two opponents with a reletively marginal holding Ax,Kx,Qx,Jx the sm blind may have a pair 77/88/99/TT- so I may feel KQ is good enough to try to end day on a good stake. As should have about even odds for all. Most other hands except JJ+ I'd prob fold.

A good SB is probably shoving about 18-20% of the time with a range that looks like:

22+,A2s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo

With the worse hands only weighted some % of the time.

I would be reshoving with 88+ and AT+, think KQs and 77 are v close.

edit: ATo is also v close, but on the 'call' side of close imo

Thanks for the responses.

I'll now give some info on the players.

Button = compotent French pro, not too active and quietly going about his business.
SB = Mickey Peterson, recent winner of EPT Copenhagen and obviously knows what he's doing, although with his stack size he's been playing a patient waiting game.
BB = local small-stakes cash player who's managed to bink a couple of comps and so thinks he's got a chance of doing it again. He has more trophies than Harry Redknapp and David Moyes combined though.

vs. a mement sb resteal I'd be re shipping with QQ+ AKo+. He always has it.

JJ, QQ, KK, AA I am calling here in BB.  AK I fold.  Any other hand I fold as I have too many chips left to work for me with any other hand. I HAVE TO believe I can outplay people in later rounds in this tournament and accumulate more chips.

Gl out playing mickey Peterson, dan Phillips or elky :)

I mean, 99+, AQs+ is a minimum range here

Can't see me folding 88 or AJs either

In the BB I am in for 1200 only. I cannot call another 28,800 all in bet without holding at least JJ, if not QQ in this spot. AK I am not interested in calling here.  It is far too early in the tournament to be playing AK for a lot of chips.

If I have been 'outplayed' on this hand then the winner of the hand is more than welcome to my 1200 chips, I hopefully will have given myself more opportunities to win all the chips.

You're obviously welcome to play how you wish, but folding AK in this spot would be absolutely horrendous

SB is on the nitty side of the regs.  Never folding AK though, and am struggling with TT and AQ.  Can't see me going much lower. 

I folded AJo. Then I regretted the fold, and thought it might have been a mistake.

99, 1010, JJ, QQ , KK, AJ to AK,KQ is well in my calling range there! i do beleive his shoving range could be quiet light here any pp,K10+,A10,+Q10 he might be a nit but even nits make moves sometimes :)