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Title: 45bbs vs big 3bet Post by: pleno1 on April 30, 2012, 01:14:59 PM 20 cubed, theres 14 left and we're currently 5 handed for some reason.
I'm new to the table but way out of line, I 5b very first hand then around 6 hands later cold 4/6bet jammed but havn't gone to showdown Blinds are 500/100k 100 I make it 2000 from the cut off with a stack of 45,000 The cut off makes it 7000 Cut off is unknown and he is currently 1/14 What's our shoving range? Title: Re: 45bbs vs big 3bet Post by: rbolt2 on April 30, 2012, 02:07:05 PM your both in the cut off :P
Title: Re: 45bbs vs big 3bet Post by: pleno1 on April 30, 2012, 02:17:39 PM Sry he 3bets the button
Title: Re: 45bbs vs big 3bet Post by: outragous76 on April 30, 2012, 03:18:30 PM min 4b/fold?
I think the problem with 4b jamming with no dymanic and reads is that we are kinda guessing. I think Id be asking myself how light is he calling it all off and then going with that range (this inevitably leads to a tighter range IMO). If this isnt 6 max, just fold and wait to tables to balance? To answer you question, QQ+ and probs JJ in game and given our image (and AK obv) (Im assuming 45bbs is a very healthy stack tourney wsie this late?) Title: Re: 45bbs vs big 3bet Post by: outragous76 on April 30, 2012, 03:19:20 PM and then I kinda tell myself if we are going with JJ we should add TT, and then the whole nitting it up loop starts in my head again :D
Title: Re: 45bbs vs big 3bet Post by: mondatoo on April 30, 2012, 03:49:40 PM 4b/c QQ+ >>>>>>4b shoving
Title: Re: 45bbs vs big 3bet Post by: pleno1 on April 30, 2012, 05:02:34 PM with these stack sizes id generally 4b/call, his 3bet size is alarmingly huge though, 3.5x with these stacks is pretty retardedly big and we should just do pot to stack rather than initial big blinds or?
Title: Re: 45bbs vs big 3bet Post by: outragous76 on April 30, 2012, 05:40:10 PM I think because of his raise size, the min 4b is perfectly sized (12k?) for 2 reasons!
If he is terrible it might freak him out, but moreso, it leaves him nowhere to go (but all in obv), whereas if we have a bag of spammers we can let it go and maintain 30bbs+ |