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In case you didn't see it, Simon Trumper said:

Starting Tuesday 8th May 7.30pm we will be launching a single nightly brand new tournament for all weekly players. Buy in will be £25, just £5 more than the current £20 that has a guarantee of only £500 and you will have the option of 1 re entry during late reg which ends at 9.30pm, the reason that this event will also appeal to our current £50 players is the guarantee will be a phenomenal £5000, double the current £50 guarantee for half the outlay!!!

When we first opened we had a £25 event with just 3000 starting chips that used to get 200 players, we will need 250 entries to cover the £5000 guarantee and these players will be getting a 10,000 starting stack. We expect until the event is well publicised to get £1000 a night overlays but we would like to see players travelling to play for this value as it is unheard of for such a big guarantee at this level of buy in.

Spread the word please and lets see if we can make this a success.

Cheers

ACES

£25? £5,000 GTD?

10,000 chips?

Pretty unbeatable I would say, if you live close enough

How close is close enough though?

It certainly adds to my willingness to pop in on the way home from any trips south.

What structure/clock will be used? Simon's fb page talks about some 'tweaks'...

I will get Simon to come on re the Structure

How close? Dunno, but its got to be worth a thought..weighing up petrol etc versus the guarantee on offer for such a small buy in

Thought all comps were wsop structure but with differing clocks.

Simon is starting to get right on my nerves. Just because he has to go to Dtd 5 days a week, why his he making it so hard fir us not to. :)

For me personally i like the idea, if i get down to DTD i usually play the £50 tourneys so to get 2 bullets for the same £50 and £5k gte is great, however, i feel it might upset some of the regulars from the £20 game as they might consider it to be a shove fest for the regs 'stepping down' from the £50.

 I hope im wrong and it doesnt put too many off.

3,000 starting chips FTW.

10,000 chips/sensible structure shouldn't be a shove fest for anyone should it?

Surely higher buy in regs are going to be taking it seriously with that guarantee?

don't mind for Mon to Thurs but would like to keep a bigger game for a Friday night

Well, if it needs 250 runners and has to be done in one night then it's gonna turn into a shove fest at some point. Just a case of using a structure that results in a "better" shove fest. Sounds like DTD have that right.

20 mins clock on a 10k stack with 200+ runners shouldn't really end up as bingo till about 4 in the morning and then there should still be some play there.

Don't get me wrong, DTD is the nuts yaddayadda, and I don't have any interest in these tourneys either way

But 2 points:

A big guarantee doesn't increase your average ROI (unless there is an overlay). It's still only a £20 tournament down from £50.

Also it has 25% rake.

It's obv a sick tournament for recreational players or whatever, but that's all. But then I guess that goes for all the weekly tournaments anywayz.

Only if it met guarantee

Estimated finish time?

Where does it say 25% rake please.

In! It's a 25 NOT a 20+ 5. Imagine rake will be standard DTD rake. I live 40 mins away 28 miles but reckon its got to be worth the trip as long as finish time ends up being reasonable. 7pm start might be better with late reg.

Says it needs 250 runners to cover the £5k guarantee.

At £25 it looks like £20 + £5

I'm not complaining btw just pointing it out for Junior and Smashed.

This please.

Would definitely be interested in playing but not if it goes on 'til 4am.

+1

Not that it would matter often these days but needs to be final table at 1am latest done by 2.30am for me

Yeah, same for me.

Am I right in thinking if it gets 201 runners then we would pay £5 rake between all of  us?
I am more than happy to pay the rake my treat.

Can you see it getting 200 runners average 4 or 5 school nights a week. I think Dtd are taking a risk but then again they always seem to get there.

I can't see 100 players being done by 2am let alone 200.

"Dusk Till Dawn Club will deduct 10% from the total number of entries X buy-ins as its fees (for comps at buy-ins less than £50, there will be a minimum deduction of £5 per for 1 day tournament and £10 for a 2 day+ tournament)"

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=57196.0

I think  if you combined the old 50 + 15 tourneys you wouldn't be too far off.

No you'd pay £25 between you.

It's the prize pool that's guaranteed so 200 runners at £25 each = £5k

201 runners = £5k prize pool + £25 to DTD

250 runners = £5k prize pool + £1250 to DTD

251 runners = £5020 prize pool + £1255 to DTD

Basically the prize pool doesn't change up to 250 runners. It's rake free up to 200 runners + an overlay which is fantastic for players.

From 200 to 250 runners 100% of contributions go to DTD so this is a bad time for the players.

251+ It's back to normal with £20 going to the prize pool and £5 to DTD.

Whatever way you look at it it's good for the players. £5 for an evening's entertainment with the potential to win £1.5k is pretty incred.

You can't look at a £20 live comp as anything other than recreational so the rake % is pretty much irrelevant.

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Well I am confused and not paying enough attention.

Yeah that's a very good point to be fair

Guys, here is the full schedule for May http://www.dusktilldawnpokerclub.com/schedules/may-2012.pdf.

- the new XXL 25 should finish around 2am with 200 runners, start at 7.30pm, is the WSOP structure less 5 levels but with 25-50 and 75-150 added, so 3 levels difference, all the WSOP levels after level 17 are in the XXL 25, so it's an excellent evening structure IMO, lets see how it plays

- in advance of the WSOP £500 Warm Up event, we are running a £150 Deepstack for next 3 weeks £50K gte, using the WSOP main event blind structure with 30,000 chips, and also every Sunday, we will be running a Super 50 with the WSOP main event structure and 15,000 chips, 2pm start.

To promote our WSOP Warm up in June, I have tried to stay as close to their structure as possible whilst getting comps finished at a reasonable time. Here is the WSOP Warm Up info http://www.dusktilldawnpokerclub.com/events/wsop-warm-up-weekend.

Please post any questions/comments on here and I will answer/discuss

Cheers Aces

blonde will be updating the £150 on 18-20 May, the £500 WSOP Warm Up on 1-4 June then the Chipleader on 15-17 June

nice to see the 50 stay on fridays, was unsure until I saw the whole schedule but looks very good :)

Has the 150 gone back 2 7pm start on the Friday . Much prefer 2 pm start so home at reasonable time on Saturday and don't have 2 spend 2 hrs on m6 I'n traffic