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Title: Line check deep in bigger $55 Post by: Pugwashed on May 07, 2012, 02:46:04 AM No history with villain, he's only been at the table 23 hands, won a flip to double a few hands earlier. I've been a bit card dead and not very active for the short time he's been at the table.
There is about 80 left in the Bigger $55 on stars PokerStars Hand #80037896572: Tournament #571010577, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (2800/5600) - 2012/05/07 2:36:34 WET [2012/05/06 21:36:34 ET] Table '571010577 191' 9-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: flewPT (64956 in chips) Seat 2: marroca5 (212135 in chips) Seat 3: PaddyClover (70900 in chips) Seat 4: Pugwashed (153833 in chips) Seat 5: gorzoni (148336 in chips) Seat 6: ijileee (178416 in chips) Seat 8: ganatodoAA (154354 in chips) Seat 9: russty39 (126387 in chips) flewPT: posts the ante 700 marroca5: posts the ante 700 PaddyClover: posts the ante 700 Pugwashed: posts the ante 700 gorzoni: posts the ante 700 ijileee: posts the ante 700 ganatodoAA: posts the ante 700 russty39: posts the ante 700 gorzoni: posts small blind 2800 ijileee: posts big blind 5600 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Pugwashed [5h 3c] ganatodoAA: folds russty39: folds flewPT: folds marroca5: folds PaddyClover: folds Pugwashed: raises 5600 to 11200 gorzoni: folds ijileee: calls 5600 *** FLOP *** [Jc 6d 4h] ijileee: checks Pugwashed: bets 11200 ijileee: raises 14000 to 25200 Pugwashed: calls 14000 *** TURN *** [Jc 6d 4h] [4s] ijileee: bets 32480 Pugwashed: calls 32480 *** RIVER *** [Jc 6d 4h 4s] [9h] ijileee: checks Pugwashed: bets 84253 and is all-in Thoughts? Title: Re: Line check deep in bigger $55 Post by: rfgqqabc on May 07, 2012, 03:32:46 AM Not sure i'd min this but obviously something everyone does at this point. Know if hes a reg or not? I've definitely played hands like this ingame, seems fine imo but I feel a little underqualified. It seems its hard for him to have a lot but pretty player dependant and i can see you getting snapped a decent chunk of the time. High variance but can't see him folding if he has anything at all. Like 85k into 130k, good price for a bluff too.
Edit: Shove is a must, there aren't many draws pre, your unlikely to have any, so he can't expect you to be bluffing/floating. Must jam when you get here, and i don't really see another point to fold either. Call turn has to be better than shoving, such a good price, he cant ever bluff river with air, expecting you to fold due to the price. It's not like hes suddenly checking to get a bluff out of you with 99/KJ he just shoves all value hands. wp imho Title: Re: Line check deep in bigger $55 Post by: muckthenuts on May 07, 2012, 09:37:05 AM There's this really good article about folding preflop you should read. Think it was by a guy called Malvir or something
Title: Re: Line check deep in bigger $55 Post by: pleno1 on May 07, 2012, 09:56:02 AM link?
Title: Re: Line check deep in bigger $55 Post by: outragous76 on May 07, 2012, 10:18:58 AM Raise get it in otf
Title: Re: Line check deep in bigger $55 Post by: FrenchieBeni on May 07, 2012, 10:59:09 AM Raise get it in otf you mean raise shove surely? raise/calling with 5hi/the smallest draw is not good imo.i thought about b3b shoving but we risk alot of chips - like 130k ish to win 68k ish. with 32%ish equity when called we need villain to c/r//fold 30% of the time roughly. well its okay actually. say he's c/r//calling {AJ, KJ, 44, 66, 64s} = 32 combos. lets add 8 wtf combos like some KK, JJ, QJ to be pessimistic --> 40 value combos overall. we need to find 17ish combos he can c/r//fold. Doesnt sound too unrealistic; but we'd need to know his 3betting tendencies a bit - if hes calling more than 3betting from the blinds and have more KQs, ATs, ATo, JTs, T9s etc then it starts being really good imo. i expect villain to have a decent bluffing frequency on this flop; he could c/r//fold bigger draws like 75s, Jh Th, overcard+bacdoor flushdraw ala Ad Td. we could also play really imbalanced: b/c flop and shove this turn over his bet - stack sizes are nice. as played with 5hi otr i think shoving is our only option. Title: Re: Line check deep in bigger $55 Post by: Pugwashed on May 07, 2012, 12:47:02 PM There's this really good article about folding preflop you should read. Think it was by a guy called Malvir or something link? There is no article... Ok, so pre is probably too loose but I was hoping that it wouldn't be the focus and that I could maybe get some constructive replies about the rest of the hand rather than trolling about preflop Title: Re: Line check deep in bigger $55 Post by: cambridgealex on May 07, 2012, 01:15:21 PM Id open atc this deep in this comp blinds dependant obv.
Title: Re: Line check deep in bigger $55 Post by: pleno1 on May 07, 2012, 01:40:34 PM There's this really good article about folding preflop you should read. Think it was by a guy called Malvir or something link? There is no article... Ok, so pre is probably too loose but I was hoping that it wouldn't be the focus and that I could maybe get some constructive replies about the rest of the hand rather than trolling about preflop huh Title: Re: Line check deep in bigger $55 Post by: Pugwashed on May 07, 2012, 02:42:52 PM There's this really good article about folding preflop you should read. Think it was by a guy called Malvir or something link? There is no article... Ok, so pre is probably too loose but I was hoping that it wouldn't be the focus and that I could maybe get some constructive replies about the rest of the hand rather than trolling about preflop huh Aamir's comment was an in-joke about a guy (Malvir) that used to play in our home games who'd never fold preflop and its his way of saying "fold pre". As for my thoughts on pre, in a tournament like this, with no reads that the blinds are regs/good/aggro then I'm usually opening extremely wide but 53o might be pushing it a bit Title: Re: Line check deep in bigger $55 Post by: Rupert on May 08, 2012, 05:04:10 AM fold pre, fold turn. Opening ATC here is definitely a mistake
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