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Title: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: TL900 on May 07, 2012, 08:56:13 PM
This is a very deep stacked SCOOP event with ridiculous blind increments and a ton of play.

Im playing 30/25/9 /8% (4bet) villian is a very good reg and playing 28/22/16 (67% fold to 4bet 2/3)

PokerStars Hand #80073247655: Tournament #2012050032, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (100/200) - 2012/05/07 20:24:57 WET [2012/05/07 15:24:57 ET]
Table '2012050032 325' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: jensjensen4 (76153 in chips)
Seat 2: 2fingerz 2u (37775 in chips)
Seat 3: Sharukh10 (14218 in chips)
Seat 4: Assad91 (47295 in chips)
Seat 5: GotURead (41948 in chips)
Seat 6: Mt.Spewmore (40844 in chips)
jensjensen4: posts the ante 25
2fingerz 2u: posts the ante 25
Sharukh10: posts the ante 25
Assad91: posts the ante 25
GotURead: posts the ante 25
Mt.Spewmore: posts the ante 25
GotURead: posts small blind 100
Mt.Spewmore: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mt.Spewmore [Ah Td]
jensjensen4: folds
2fingerz 2u: folds
Sharukh10: folds
Assad91: raises 200 to 400
GotURead: raises 1000 to 1400
Mt.Spewmore: raises 1855 to 3255
Assad91: folds
GotURead: raises 1855 to 5110
Mt.Spewmore: calls 1855
*** FLOP *** [Jh As 3s]
GotURead: checks
Mt.Spewmore: checks
*** TURN *** [Jh As 3s] [Ad]
GotURead: bets 4738
Mt.Spewmore: calls 4738
*** RIVER *** [Jh As 3s Ad] [Ks]
GotURead: checks


Line check up to river and action on river I would like opinions on. Thanks.


Title: Re: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2012, 09:14:54 PM
I think goturead is one of the very best regs, and very capable of the river bluff.  I guess someone will pipe up with you shouldn't have called the 5 bet, but you have position and it is button, SB, BB and he has moves.  So, looks fine so far.  I think you have to bet, I guess whether we call depends on how much.  Every genuine hand he could have beats us, just think he has a lot of bluffs in his arsenal.

I can't see me doing anything other than calling or folding if I get reraised on the river.


Title: Re: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: pleno1 on May 07, 2012, 11:15:58 PM
6b/fold?


Title: Re: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: rfgqqabc on May 08, 2012, 01:29:28 AM
I think checking back the river has to be fine. I mean, you have to be winning a %, but you even occasionally get bluffed here if he is that good, and it sucks to bet thinly and fold, esp if he thinks your capable of not having a house here. In a way, you might feel like you have to bet/call because villain can only shove AK/AJ here, and not KK, so his range is extremely small, but also, like wtf. Its a deep tourney, a 5bet pot vs a good player and we want to bet really really thin.

Up to river seems fine, frisky, but cool.


Title: Re: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: NigDawG on May 08, 2012, 02:34:15 AM
6b/fold?

dislike vs some1 who will happily 7b bluff

edit - there aren't many people who are capable of such things....goturead happens to be one of them though


Title: Re: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: railtard1 on May 08, 2012, 03:04:51 AM
6b/fold?

haha, u obv havnt played goturead much


Title: Re: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: Dubai on May 08, 2012, 03:32:28 AM
Sounds like an easy 6bet call then


Title: Re: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: TL900 on May 08, 2012, 04:49:26 AM
Sounds like an easy 6bet call then

it would have to be 6bet to 8bet call atleast.


Title: Re: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: Rupert on May 08, 2012, 04:55:09 AM
47bet/decide


Title: Re: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: Rupert on May 08, 2012, 05:00:17 AM
Alright fine.  I think pre is good.  I would definitely bet the flop when he checks and bet turns.  Tough spot if he c/r the flop pretty weird line.  As played I would check back the river.  You pretty much always have a showdown bound hand.  QJ you'd fold on the river if he bet, Ax he always expects you to bet and maybe even some Kx.  There isn't a ton of value in you betting and it's far more likely he check raises the river and you get put in a coffin. It's a bit of a guessing game if that happens but there's a decent amount of combos he can have for value so we'd hate life and have to end up folding.


Title: Re: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: pleno1 on May 08, 2012, 04:55:41 PM
fistpumping so hard about my 4b/6b w/a9dd vs him in the 530 on Sunday which I've been beating myself up all week :D


Title: Re: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: jgcblack on May 09, 2012, 01:28:52 AM
What would Dolly make of all this.....

such a short time ago a 3bt meant AA and KK.... now we're looking to 6bt/8bt call an A and a T.

:D

How did you handle this MTT beast then Tom?


Title: Re: $50r action hour SCOOP
Post by: FrenchieBeni on May 09, 2012, 11:46:39 AM
Really dont like 4b/call 200bb deep vs a good opponent.
EDIT: thought it was SB vs BTN; BvB is fine then.

as played, even if i agree with
There isn't a ton of value in you betting and it's far more likely he check raises the river and you get put in a coffin. It's a bit of a guessing game if that happens but there's a decent amount of combos he can have for value so we'd hate life and have to end up folding.
i think villains way more likely to bet hands that beat us than check them OTR. he could 5b Ax pre and play this way. also, not betting because we're afraid of being c/r is not a good reason.
if hes that good i'd bet 12k ish/call  as we're close to the top of our range. i like flop check btw.