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Title: fml spot
Post by: pleno1 on May 08, 2012, 12:24:23 AM
PokerStars Hand #80086819158: Tournament #2012050052, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIV (2500/5000) - 2012/05/08 1:16:33 CET [2012/05/07 19:16:33 ET]
Table '2012050052 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Mr_BigQueso (32553 in chips)
Seat 2: Obär89 (3347 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero (59855 in chips)
Seat 4: bedias (32035 in chips)
Seat 5: ulmman4 (45126 in chips)
Seat 6: TotalBiz (116149 in chips)
Seat 7: Turko_man (58117 in chips)
Seat 8: DonLinnet (41016 in chips)
Seat 9: GypsycatchR (95747 in chips)
Mr_BigQueso: posts the ante 625
Obär89: posts the ante 625
Hero : posts the ante 625
bedias: posts the ante 625
ulmman4: posts the ante 625
TotalBiz: posts the ante 625
Turko_man: posts the ante 625
DonLinnet: posts the ante 625
GypsycatchR: posts the ante 625
GypsycatchR: posts small blind 2500
Mr_BigQueso: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero  [ ]
Obär89: calls 2722 and is all-in
Hero : raises 6222 to 11222
bedias: folds
ulmman4: folds
TotalBiz: folds
Turko_man: raises 46270 to 57492 and is all-in
DonLinnet: calls 40391 and is all-in
GypsycatchR: folds
Mr_BigQueso: folds
Hero :


40 from money in 100r turbo scoop.

our range?


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: rfgqqabc on May 08, 2012, 01:19:49 AM
QQ+ and  Aspades Ks


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: TL900 on May 08, 2012, 04:50:48 AM
QQ+ and  Aspades Ks


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: Rupert on May 08, 2012, 05:01:09 AM
jam pre


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: pleno1 on May 08, 2012, 09:49:08 AM
yer think its close, how shallow are you r/calling?


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: WotRTheChances on May 08, 2012, 03:24:17 PM
Definately not raise-folding out of this stack... MASSIVELY not in this spot. Jam/Fold pre. Jamming 88+ ATs+ AJo+ KQ.... possibly wider KJs, QJs, A9-AT is close. Stato is the master of these ranges, will get him on.


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: pleno1 on May 08, 2012, 04:50:40 PM
I had QQ and felt like I could r/call,I had r/everybody folded previously btw (like 15 hands ago) we are deep for this turbo aswell.


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: mondatoo on May 08, 2012, 06:39:28 PM
I don't mind your line as long as you knew the majority of the people behind where pretty bad as your range is always super strong here, I assume QQ is the bottom of your range here ? Anyone good would know this and could make hero folds when they'd snap reship if you just jammed. If there's 3+ good players behind jamming>>>>>>>>>>>r/c

My range would be around 15-20% so summit like 44+ AT+ A7s+ KQ K8s+...

Even though it's a turbo you can't say your deep when you have less than 7bbs eff.


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: mondatoo on May 08, 2012, 06:47:46 PM
As for the spot, I'd probably hover the cursor over the fold button, abs hate life then think fuck this they could both have AK and call.


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: Rupert on May 08, 2012, 06:53:22 PM
ya I mean in a 25 hyper this would be fine and I'd def call off QQ+ but in this tournament it's pretty tough and you have a few regs at your table who know whats up.  From UTG+1 you look so strong.  You get it in vs a weaker range if you jam


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 10, 2012, 02:56:31 PM
QQ+ and  Aspades Ks

 Ad Kd folding? that's pretty tight :D


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: rfgqqabc on May 10, 2012, 10:04:08 PM
QQ+ and  Aspades Ks

 Ad Kd folding? that's pretty tight :D
Occasionally flick in mood dependent!


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: railtard1 on May 11, 2012, 01:59:00 AM
ya I mean in a 25 hyper this would be fine and I'd def call off QQ+ but in this tournament it's pretty tough and you have a few regs at your table who know whats up.  From UTG+1 you look so strong.  You get it in vs a weaker range if you jam

thats why he wins EPT's and i finish 7th!

exactly what rupert said tho. ur getting called much wider by jamming. U getting hands to hero fold by opening from this stack. I assume ur never raise folding in this spot.?


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: pleno1 on May 11, 2012, 10:20:16 AM
yeh there were 2 really aggro/bad players who had been pushing the close to bubble abit too much. would always jam usually though


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: mondatoo on May 11, 2012, 11:31:54 AM
yeh there were 2 really aggro/bad players who had been pushing the close to bubble abit too much. would always jam usually though

If there's 2 bad/fish villains but 3+ regs then jamming>>>>>>>>>r/c.


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: pleno1 on May 11, 2012, 11:35:19 AM
was pretty readless tbh, the table was just overly aggro and people playing badly. at time it definitely felt right with table dynamics and fish on my left but usually i would opt for a jam


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: skolsuper on May 11, 2012, 03:51:30 PM
ya I mean in a 25 hyper this would be fine and I'd def call off QQ+ but in this tournament it's pretty tough and you have a few regs at your table who know whats up.  From UTG+1 you look so strong.  You get it in vs a weaker range if you jam

thats why he wins EPT's and i finish 7th!

exactly what rupert said tho. ur getting called much wider by jamming. U getting hands to hero fold by opening from this stack. I assume ur never raise folding in this spot.?

Actually I think the reason he wins EPTs and you finish 7th has more to do with ICM.


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: railtard1 on May 12, 2012, 01:08:31 AM
ya I mean in a 25 hyper this would be fine and I'd def call off QQ+ but in this tournament it's pretty tough and you have a few regs at your table who know whats up.  From UTG+1 you look so strong.  You get it in vs a weaker range if you jam

thats why he wins EPT's and i finish 7th!

exactly what rupert said tho. ur getting called much wider by jamming. U getting hands to hero fold by opening from this stack. I assume ur never raise folding in this spot.?

Actually I think the reason he wins EPTs and you finish 7th has more to do with ICM.

haha ffffffffffs. u allways gona be one up on me :-(


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: Rupert on May 12, 2012, 01:28:51 AM
ya I mean in a 25 hyper this would be fine and I'd def call off QQ+ but in this tournament it's pretty tough and you have a few regs at your table who know whats up.  From UTG+1 you look so strong.  You get it in vs a weaker range if you jam

thats why he wins EPT's and i finish 7th!

exactly what rupert said tho. ur getting called much wider by jamming. U getting hands to hero fold by opening from this stack. I assume ur never raise folding in this spot.?

Actually I think the reason he wins EPTs and you finish 7th has more to do with ICM.

haha ffffffffffs. u allways gona be one up on me :-(

not on me though #firstloser


Title: Re: fml spot
Post by: PutYouOnAK/AQ on May 12, 2012, 05:05:08 PM
Really is a gross spot, would only raise out of this stack if players were really bad, vs a table with 3 regs you should definitely jam to balance your range.  Think you can comfortably fold this tbh but it definitely depends how the villains perceive you and if they think you will raise fold out of your stack, or if you'll raise call with weaker hands.

Shoving range with 10-12 bigs in a turbo utg: any pair, a10+, kqos+.