Title: Playing AA.. Post by: david3103 on May 08, 2012, 09:05:04 AM Playing the DTD satellites last night as I funked for Blondes in the Deepstack (Big WD for G2L) and had these three hands in a fairly short period. On each occasion villain seems to have played AA in a non-standard way.
Cliffs - Hand 1 - I limp A3 off ( I know I know) and flop two pair, he checks the flop, calls the turn and overjams the river Hand 2 - same villain I raise KQ (4-handed in 150 feeder, one seat on offer) he flats my raise, calls flop and calls my turn shove Hand 3 - HH hasn't saved on HEM for some reason but BvB i have KK and limp with the plan to CRAI or call a shove. Flop is blank, I check he checks behind, turn another blank i check he checks behind, river a third blank, I bet he raises I shove he calls. I may owe £1.50 but it seemed to me that on all three hands Villain takes a line that feels unusual. Hand 1 http://www.holdemmanager.net NL Holdem $200(BB) Replayer Game#2878963115 napsdave ($9,349) david ($14,500) skynews1 ($10,301) Shuey1 ($5,850) napsdave posts (SB) $100 david posts (BB) $200 Dealt to david 3h Ad fold, Shuey1 calls $200 fold, david checks FLOP ($500) 3c Ah 5c david checks Shuey1 checks TURN ($500) 3c Ah 5c 8d david bets $250 Shuey1 calls $250 RIVER ($1,000) 3c Ah 5c 8d 7d david bets $1,000 Shuey1 raises to $5,400 (AI) david calls $4,400 david shows 3h Ad (Pre 7%, Flop 0.9%, Turn 0.0%) Shuey1 shows As Ac (Pre 93%, Flop 99.1%, Turn 100.0%) Shuey1 wins $11,800 Hand 2 http://www.holdemmanager.net NL Holdem $250(BB) Replayer Game#2878967830 Shuey1 ($10,925) napsdave ($10,249) david ($5,350) skynews1 ($13,476) napsdave antes $25 david antes $25 skynews1 antes $25 Shuey1 antes $25 napsdave posts (BB) $250 Shuey1 posts (SB) $125 Dealt to david Qh Kc david raises to $612 fold, Shuey1 calls $487 napsdave calls $362 FLOP ($1,936) 3h 5s Kd Shuey1 checks napsdave checks david bets $968 Shuey1 calls $968 napsdave calls $968 TURN ($4,840) 3h 5s Kd 2h Shuey1 checks napsdave checks david bets $3,745 (AI) Shuey1 calls $3,745 napsdave folds RIVER ($12,330) 3h 5s Kd 2h 8d david shows Qh Kc (Pre 13%, Flop 18.4%, Turn 11.4%) Shuey1 shows Ad Ac (Pre 87%, Flop 81.6%, Turn 88.6%) Shuey1 wins $12,330 Title: Re: Playing AA.. Post by: rfgqqabc on May 08, 2012, 04:22:56 PM Not standard by him, but its fine. Flatting in both spots isn't fantastic but ok in circumstances, 2nd one slightly better in my opinion. Just desperate to get max value, which is fair, unless you have regular opponents that will learn you only limp the button with AA etc, in which case people can make really good reads vs you.
I'd be extremely cautious of any strange plays this player seems to make. edit: Due to the nature of sattys prize structure, i might only be flatting when he raises the river, shove might be thin. Depends on exact board tho, 226TQ is fine to reshove, 679JJ would be awful obv Title: Re: Playing AA.. Post by: Rupert on May 08, 2012, 05:30:10 PM 1) less on river fold to jam
2) wp i'd minraise pre off 22bigs Title: Re: Playing AA.. Post by: david3103 on May 08, 2012, 07:38:29 PM 1) less on river fold to jam 2) wp i'd minraise pre off 22bigs 2) wp? I generally min, but 1/2 pot button caught my eye first Title: Re: Playing AA.. Post by: Rupert on May 08, 2012, 07:45:53 PM 1) less on river fold to jam 2) wp i'd minraise pre off 22bigs 2) wp? I generally min, but 1/2 pot button caught my eye first well played. hopefully the registration button doesn't catch your eye too much ;nana; Title: Re: Playing AA.. Post by: david3103 on May 08, 2012, 10:21:39 PM 1) less on river fold to jam 2) wp i'd minraise pre off 22bigs 2) wp? I generally min, but 1/2 pot button caught my eye first well played. hopefully the registration button doesn't catch your eye too much ;nana; I'm still not sure if I'm being whooshed, but I will take that as a compliment until someone corrects me. Title: Re: Playing AA.. Post by: jgcblack on May 09, 2012, 12:16:35 AM I think these are spots where you have medium strength value hands and by the river you will be beat a lot, even when it seems unlikely.
Remember these players call bad but some of them never raise bad and often tptk or AA (overpairs) just aren't going to get you some bread and butter. Vs certain opponents on dtd software Im stacking off with AA on almost any texture because these people I trust to make bad plays/ raises etc.. but in this case vs this Opp i think its a case of - trick me once, well done - tricked me twice, you're a tricky one... - tricked me thrice, I should be folding more often. :D Title: Re: Playing AA.. Post by: muckthenuts on May 09, 2012, 02:52:59 AM hand 1 bet waaaaaaaay less on the river (i'd go like 525-600) and as played it's a clear fold now. Straight draws have at least sd value now and it makes no sense for him to bluff clubs on the river if he hasnt bet the flop.
hand 2 is fine, agree with rupert about opening smaller with your stack Title: Re: Playing AA.. Post by: david3103 on May 09, 2012, 06:50:24 AM I think these are spots where you have medium strength value hands and by the river you will be beat a lot, even when it seems unlikely. Remember these players call bad but some of them never raise bad and often tptk or AA (overpairs) just aren't going to get you some bread and butter. Vs certain opponents on dtd software Im stacking off with AA on almost any texture because these people I trust to make bad plays/ raises etc.. but in this case vs this Opp i think its a case of - trick me once, well done - tricked me twice, you're a tricky one... - tricked me thrice, I should be folding more often. :D yeah, the second hand was about an orbit after the first and was same villain - it was noted. Hard to give him credit for AA twice in that period though. Third hand was a different villain and maybe less tricky given that it was BvB and in essence I started it by just completing with KK. Found new ways to not win a GP Satellite yesterday, like AQ<KK despite the A on the river, and then reloading and getting KK next hand and losing to same villain's AQ. In essence... Hand 1, it's not that interesting in truth - he shoves ANY set on the river and ANY set beats me. It only stuck in the craw because it was aces Hand 2 - raise a little less from the smaller stack |