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Title: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 09:13:01 PM
Hi Guys, never done this before so bear with me, Two nice cashes in the last 4 weeks at dtd, 6th in Grand Prix, and 3rd in Last weeks £150.00, would want to play this weekends £500.00 on Day 1a, cant justify paying £500.00  on the turn of 5 cards, willing to pay the £250.00 myself will sell  25% of my winnings, hope i have explained propley


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: pokerfan on May 29, 2012, 09:17:22 PM
It looks like you're selling 25% of your action for 50% of the buy in ?


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 09:23:15 PM
struggling, what do u suggest


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: pokerfan on May 29, 2012, 09:24:11 PM
A small mark up or spot ideally.


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 09:25:44 PM
looking for 1 backer


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: pokerfan on May 29, 2012, 09:27:08 PM
Facebook  :D


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 09:32:37 PM
never needed to be backed mate, just thought i would give it a go, obv not a pro at this, ty anyway


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 09:42:26 PM
im a bit thick at this, someone gives me £250.00 thay get 25% of my winnings, simples, but easy advice would be appreciated, dont reg with this 1.1 stuff lol


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: skolsuper on May 29, 2012, 09:45:39 PM
To ask for £250 you should probably include:

  • Your real name
  • Some online usernames
  • A clear idea of how much action you're selling

For the DTD 500 you will also need to clarify the situation with regards to re-entries.

Hope this helps.

edit: just seen you're perfectly clear about selling 25% for £250. FYI, the chances of anyone buying that on here are slim to say the least.


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: cambridgealex on May 29, 2012, 09:48:26 PM
Need Keys on the case on this one.

You're trying to sell at 2:1 mate, and you've provided no references, hendon mobs, nothing to prove you're worth backing. Sounds like you've won over 10k this month too. Why can't you "justify" the £500 entry?


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: cambridgealex on May 29, 2012, 09:49:23 PM
Ah too quick sir


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 09:51:36 PM
cheers Alex and Skol, Michael Wright on hendon mob, 1 bullet


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: GreekStein on May 29, 2012, 09:55:23 PM
how many chips does everyone start with in this event?

how many will you be starting with?

:P just kidding, gl


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 09:55:57 PM
well im open to any resonable offers, dont play online no more, to time consuming, just pick my comps for live poker


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 10:02:50 PM
ok so no good at this staking lark, will play it anyway, thanks for the advice guys


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 10:05:00 PM
hope you dont mind Alex, will pop over if ur there at the weekend for future advice


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: The Camel on May 29, 2012, 10:05:50 PM
Hi Mate.

I don't think you'll find anyone pay £250 for 25%.

In a stake a little further down this forum, you could buy 10% of one the best young poker players in the country in the WSOP Main Event (a very soft tournament) for 11%.

Now, if you would sell 50% of your action for £250, you might get some interest.

Have you got any references? (ie will someone vouch for your honesty and poker playing abilities?)

Regards

Keith


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 10:11:28 PM
cheers Keith, gl in wsop, ok 50% sounds a lot but will have offers on that i hope,  never been staked before so bit of a virgin to this, like Alex said two ft in the last two live comps no good on computers and cant link my Hendon Mob , bu people now me at dtd if that helps, ty sir for ur advice


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: FUN4FRASER on May 29, 2012, 10:12:44 PM
Ill try and help here...and to be honest this probably the only way you might get a response

My name is Michael Wright andI will be entering this weekends deepstack with one buy in only

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=161384

If You are willing to put Your own £250 in that means you own 50% and are selling 50%

Your best chance is to sell at 1 to 1 wich means for every £50 people buy of you they have 10%

Ill take 10% /£50 to get you going if you agree to the rates  (If you want to quote your own rates  good luck)



Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 10:14:23 PM
 Date  Country  Place  Prize 
22-Apr-2012   € 50 No Limit Hold'em - Re-Entry
Dusk Till Dawn Grand Prix, Nottingham  6th  € 3,034  $ 4,009 
27-Aug-2011   £ 75 No Limit Hold'em
The Goliath, Coventry  19th  £ 145  $ 239 
20-Aug-2011   £ 200 No Limit Hold'em
MegaStack Stoke #2, Stoke on Trent  6th  £ 650  $ 1,073 
10-Mar-2011     £ 500 No Limit Hold'em - Main Event
UK & Ireland Poker Tour - Manchester, Manchester  71st  £ 825  $ 1,335 
01-May-2010   £ 300 No Limit Hold'em
DTD Monthly Deepstack, Nottingham  18th  £ 824  $ 1,262 
06-Mar-2010   £ 100 No Limit Hold'em
The Royal Surrey Poker Festival, Morden  5th  £ 550  $ 829 


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 10:17:24 PM
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=161384


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 10:19:29 PM
thanks Fraser, got it now, ok as Fraser states 1.1 up for grabs, ty again Fraser


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 10:24:14 PM
10% sold Cheers Fraser, 40% left


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: The Camel on May 29, 2012, 10:28:08 PM
Fraser is more balla than me.

So I'll have 5%.


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 10:29:41 PM
cheers keith


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 10:35:27 PM
Fraser 10%
Keith 5%

35% left


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 10:43:46 PM
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=161384
3rd in last weeks £150.00 at dtd for £5495.00


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: FUN4FRASER on May 29, 2012, 10:45:31 PM
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=161384
3rd in last weeks £150.00 at dtd for £5495.00

Really ? Shouldnt you be putting yourself and me in ?


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 10:47:42 PM
Hi Guys, never done this before so bear with me, Two nice cashes in the last 4 weeks at dtd, 6th in Grand Prix, and 3rd in Last weeks £150.00, would want to play this weekends £500.00 on Day 1a, cant justify paying £500.00  on the turn of 5 cards, willing to pay the £250.00 myself will sell  25% of my winnings, hope i have explained propley
pmsl Fraser, just wanted to give this a bash


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: pleno1 on May 29, 2012, 10:54:37 PM
in before mink


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 10:56:30 PM
well i was being greedy but on fire lately, but happy with 1.1


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: FUN4FRASER on May 29, 2012, 11:01:29 PM
well i was being greedy but on fire lately, but happy with 1.1

greedy doesnt work Im afraid ...being fair is better

I though you were skint...needed a shot  etc

Anyway My £50 is promised so gl I guess (  Ill give mnoney to tighty if you sell out)

PS    not sure why you were pmsl


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 29, 2012, 11:11:54 PM
just thought 25% of £70k would be nice, seriously  a genuine thanks for your guidance on this Fraser


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: mondatoo on May 30, 2012, 12:10:14 AM
Not sure if you realise but 1:1 as Fraser was suggesting is different to 1.1 which you posted afterwards. Lots of confusion itt.


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: DMorgan on May 30, 2012, 12:42:11 AM
Have you read the 'Ground Rules and Disclaimer' post at the top of the board?

Lots of useful advice in there if you are new to staking


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 30, 2012, 12:43:25 AM
ty dan, did i miss summat?


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 30, 2012, 12:46:10 AM
sorry just got confused, think i understand it all now after looking like a nit


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: nirvana on May 30, 2012, 02:51:38 AM
It's possible everyones getting too PC and nicey, nicey. It doesn't take too much effort to figure out how to ask for staking and to understand the nuances.

Sir, your offer is lol, like an infant burglar

Best regards, good luck, may your first child be a masculine child and lang may yer lum reek


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: cambridgealex on May 30, 2012, 03:43:09 AM
I wasn't going to post again maybe I'm wrong to, there's been more than enough drama on this board recently, but I want to just point out a few things out. Hopefully Mike will learn something from this and others will see it and learn too and we will have a better staking board because of it. Who am I to go about policing things? Nobody. I don't have Key's badge, nor Mantis' rosette. However, I hope you'll realise I'm posting for the benefit of Mike, others wanting to be staked, as well as stakers like myself and many others. NOT to cause an argument.

Firstly, I just wanted to say that I'm sure you've not set out with any bad intentions whatsoever and the mistakes you've made are through lack of experience rather than malice. To be frank, I think nirvana has nailed it on the head with his "infant burglar" analogy.

To most of us this is what it looks like:

1) You've asked for £250 worth of staking in a £500 tournament in return for 25% of the winnings. This is absurd. That is a "mark-up" of 2.0. Almost every thread on here is sold between 1.0 and 1.5, the vast majority being between 1.1 and 1.3. One of your responses to the questions about this was

just thought 25% of £70k would be nice

I mean really? Yes it would be nice. So would 10% of the lottery but doesn't mean I'll pay £500 for a ticket. It wouldn't have taken much effort to work out what price you should sell at. £250/£500 = 50%, so if you thought you were good value, maybe sell the 50% for £300, or selling 40% for £250.

2) Your OP has no online results, no links to your hendon mob, no graphs, nothing other than "Two nice cashes in the last 4 weeks at dtd, 6th in Grand Prix, and 3rd in Last weeks £150.00". You've put no effort at all into convincing people that you are worth investing in.

It wouldn't have taken any time at all to look at just one of the other threads on this board and see that you've done this totally wrong. Every thread more or less has links to online results, graphs, hendon mobs etc, as well as a clearly set out structure showing what they're selling. You've clearly not looked at a single one, (or if you had, just ignored it completely) and what's more incredible is that when Dan suggests you look at the "Ground rules and Disclaimer" post, you respond with

ty dan, did i miss summat?

Yes of course you missed something! That's why you've had all these comments and suggestions! Why don't you read it instead of asking if you missed something! It's so insulting.

3) You've cashed for 3k and 5.5k in two comps in the past 5 weeks. Yet you're asking for £250 for this weekend. I appreciate there will probably be a good reason for this, but I believe you should state what this is. And laughing off Fraser's totally reasonable question concerning this was also insulting to him I imagine.

3) may be wrong, maybe it's not that important, but it doesn't feel right to me.

Anyway, hope you don't mind me posting this.


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: tikay on May 30, 2012, 06:15:02 AM

Mr flushmeout.

Are you the gentleman who donated 5% of your winnings last weekiend @ DTD to the Cystic Fibrosis Charity in mermory of Rich Stevenson?


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 30, 2012, 07:00:59 AM
Firstly i want to apologise if i offended anyone, really new to staking and posted feet first and should have looked at it in more depth, really sorry and embarassed, yes Tikay to your question, and i didnt fancy spending £500.00 of my own money in playing this weekend just couldnt justify it thats why i asked for the staking even though i have had a nice cash in the last 4 weeks, its a principle thing, £500.00 on the turn of 5 cards so i was looking to pay the £250.00 and was looking for the staker to match my share, but didnt realise like i do now that asking for £250.00 was dream land, have said now with the help of Alex and Frasers guidance 10% of up to 50% would be great, again awfully sorry if i offended and im embarassed i posted, if Keith and Fraser would wish to withdraw i have know problem and i will pay the £500.00 my self, Principle


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: istrabraq on May 30, 2012, 07:02:49 AM
Gl brv lets make it a wright weekend you take dtd down . I will take gps down .
Bit more planning needed on staking request but I know it's not easy . Any way this reminds me of you when you got excited when I let you help me run the books I'n pubs before I got shops . Remember Michael Owen hattrick against Germany lol . Thanks for my treat big brv speak soon and good luck make it a treble grand prix 150 and 500


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: nirvana on May 30, 2012, 07:04:24 AM

Mr flushmeout.

Are you the gentleman who donated 5% of your winnings last weekiend @ DTD to the Cystic Fibrosis Charity in mermory of Rich Stevenson?

Rest


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 30, 2012, 07:05:28 AM
Thanks Bro, dont want to play it know, embarassed, gl in Jock  land


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: istrabraq on May 30, 2012, 07:14:06 AM
Don't be daft brv 99% of people on here are genuine . Patrick ( pleno ) helped me when I asked for my first staking request . We can't all be genius's hope you change your mind speak later


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 30, 2012, 07:14:24 AM
Thanks Again Alex for your guidance.


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: smashedagain on May 30, 2012, 08:20:36 AM

Mr flushmeout.

Are you the gentleman who donated 5% of your winnings last weekiend @ DTD to the Cystic Fibrosis Charity in mermory of Rich Stevenson?
Yes he is


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: tikay on May 30, 2012, 08:25:35 AM

Mr flushmeout.

Are you the gentleman who donated 5% of your winnings last weekiend @ DTD to the Cystic Fibrosis Charity in mermory of Rich Stevenson?
Yes he is

Yes, we have exchanged a few PM's.

He is very embarassed that he set about this incorrectly, & apologised. There was no need, it happens, & now he knows the score.

He seems a very decent young man.

He also asked me to thank all those who helped with advice.


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: istrabraq on May 30, 2012, 08:47:34 AM
Just spoke to my brv he said thanks Tony . Had good long chat with him everything fine .


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: FUN4FRASER on May 30, 2012, 09:13:47 AM
I think it was plain for everybody to see he was just ignorant of the correct  protocol

Tell him not to be embarrassed as no harm was done , as he obviously did not set out to mis lead anybody

Everything is Cool in My camp


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: cambridgealex on May 30, 2012, 09:28:08 AM
I apologise if I was too harsh or that I made you feel embarrassed Mike. I hope (and I think that you do) that you realise that my intentions were good, just like I realise that yours were also.

Really hope you do well this weekend, and if I see you / you find me, I'll buy you a drink.


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: tikay on May 30, 2012, 09:40:18 AM

You are doing better than me, Mike, he's never offered to buy me a drink.....

Seriously, Mike, if you ever have ANY questions as to poker protocol etc, Alex keeps an occasional Diary, & he'll always field your questions. It's here....

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=51305.8475


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: FUN4FRASER on May 30, 2012, 09:49:21 AM
I apologise if I was too harsh or that I made you feel embarrassed Mike. I hope (and I think that you do) that you realise that my intentions were good, just like I realise that yours were also.

Really hope you do well this weekend, and if I see you / you find me, I'll buy you a drink.

I didnt think you were harsh Alex.

Very good post in my opinion.


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: istrabraq on May 30, 2012, 09:52:32 AM
Have Textd him your comments guys . First time my big brv been embarrassed lol .  Tikay made me chuckle  saying he's young lol .


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: tikay on May 30, 2012, 09:53:47 AM
Have Textd him your comments guys . First time my big brv been embarrassed lol .  Tikay made me chuckle  saying he's young lol .

EVERYONE seems so young to me.

Quality rub Sir. ;)


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: FUN4FRASER on May 30, 2012, 09:54:14 AM
Have Textd him your comments guys . First time my big brv been embarrassed lol .  Tikay made me chuckle  saying he's young lol .


No Problem istrabraq


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: istrabraq on May 30, 2012, 10:05:40 AM
Tikay you need 2 go 2 spec savers lol . I remember sat next to you at blackpool side event I'n gkupt 3 years ago when that drunk gave you all his chips was  classic moment


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: tikay on May 30, 2012, 10:16:08 AM
Tikay you need 2 go 2 spec savers lol . I remember sat next to you at blackpool side event I'n gkupt 3 years ago when that drunk gave you all his chips was  classic moment

FML, this thread is getting worse. Don't tell everyone that my last half decent flag resulted from a drunkard giving me all his chips, I told everyone that I outpayed the field.


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: pleno1 on May 30, 2012, 10:21:01 AM
hes probably just friends with wigglesworth on fb..


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: The Camel on May 30, 2012, 12:38:18 PM
Let me know where I send my money for my percentage please.


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: DMorgan on May 30, 2012, 01:58:22 PM
hes probably just friends with wigglesworth on fb..

zzzzzzzzzzzingggggg


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: smashedagain on May 30, 2012, 02:37:51 PM
hes probably just friends with wigglesworth on fb..

zzzzzzzzzzzingggggg
Lol I <3 Pete and Paul Romain is another. Always starts his day in a coffe shop somewhere. I'm only jealous because I had my 18 months and wish I had listened more to Tittybean :(


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 30, 2012, 04:26:05 PM
Alex, i read ur post and was excellent and thanks to all for bearing with me, lesson learnt,


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on May 30, 2012, 06:22:55 PM
Sold 10% Fraser
        5% Keith
        10% Isrtabraq
         25% Ash Chouhan 


Ty, Got there eventually!!!! 


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: titaniumbean on May 30, 2012, 06:32:59 PM
hes probably just friends with wigglesworth on fb..

zzzzzzzzzzzingggggg
Lol I <3 Pete and Paul Romain is another. Always starts his day in a coffe shop somewhere. I'm only jealous because I had my 18 months and wish I had listened more to Tittybean :(

pleno wins.

No idea what Hendon Mob is talking about though. Obv everyone should listen to me. Goes without saying.




Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: flushthemout on June 03, 2012, 04:38:42 PM
sorry to my backers, no deep run this time, Had some many pocket pairs but never hit a set only once v Fraser and Fraser paid me of small, waited patiently then raised with 13 bigs utg with Kj spades, bb calls with A spades Ten Hearts, flopped three spades turn was forth spade got it allin, ty again guys


Title: Re: £500.00 this weekend at Dtd
Post by: istrabraq on June 03, 2012, 08:27:57 PM
No probs brv will defo back you I'n future