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Title: Puzzle
Post by: Cf on May 31, 2012, 02:50:32 PM
A mole digs 5 mole hills in your back garden laid in a row.

Every day at midday he will pop his head up giving you a few seconds to hit it with your shovel - but you need to be standing in front of the right hill to do this.

After this he will move to an adjacent hill.

If you are stood at the wrong hill you do NOT see where he surfaced.

In which order do you choose to check the hills to ensure you will have got him in no longer than 6 days?


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: AndrewT on May 31, 2012, 02:57:32 PM
This thread is going to bring back some bad memories for Red-Dog.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: millidonk on May 31, 2012, 02:59:16 PM
First mole hill? furthest on the left.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: zerofive on May 31, 2012, 03:16:43 PM
Is that to say he will move to an adjacent hill and stay there until he pops up the next noon?


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: outragous76 on May 31, 2012, 03:21:37 PM
buy a dog?


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: RED-DOG on May 31, 2012, 03:26:24 PM
My moles dig 10 holes a day and I never get to hit one with a shovel.

Bastards!


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: EvilPie on May 31, 2012, 03:27:39 PM
Just whack the middle one every day.



Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Cf on May 31, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
Is that to say he will move to an adjacent hill and stay there until he pops up the next noon?

Yes, he moves exactly once a day. If he's in the left hand hill he's forced to move right. If he's in the right hand hill he's forced to move left. Anywhere else it's randomly left or right.

Just whack the middle one every day.



Doesn't work. Could endlessly just alternate betwen the two at a side.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Girgy85 on May 31, 2012, 03:45:58 PM
Just throw a smoke bomb down the middle hole and smoke the bastard out then pop a cap in its ass.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: BangBang on May 31, 2012, 03:50:43 PM
You'd stand on the right hill at noon and hit him from whichever mole hill he pops out from...

I prefer Amatays fit older women thread...  ;D


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: leethefish on May 31, 2012, 03:54:51 PM
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Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: smashedagain on May 31, 2012, 04:06:17 PM
Hit the second hill in on day 1 and 2. Move 1 hill to the right and Hit the middle hill on day 3 and 4 then  move one to the right and hit that hill for days 5 and 6 if need be


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: smashedagain on May 31, 2012, 04:08:37 PM
Hill1.               Hill 2.                Hill 3.                  Hill 4.         Hill 5.
                     Day 1/2.             Day 3/4.              Day5/6

Job done


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: snoopy1239 on May 31, 2012, 04:16:38 PM
Hill1.               Hill 2.                Hill 3.                  Hill 4.         Hill 5.
                     Day 1/2.             Day 3/4.              Day5/6

Job done

This doesn't work because he could be on Hills 4 and 3 on Days 1-2, then just alternate between Hills 2 and 1 whilst you mess around with Hills 3 and 4 on the remaining days.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: EvilPie on May 31, 2012, 04:49:56 PM
2 2 4 4 3 1

I think.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: EvilPie on May 31, 2012, 04:56:33 PM
Slight change to 2 2 4 4 3 2

2 whacks on hole 2 forces him on to 3, 4 or 5.

Whack hole 4 means he's forced to be on 3 or 5 to still be alive.

Whack 4 again means he's either dead or on 2.

Whack 3 means he's either dead or on 1

Whack 2 means he's dead.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: EvilPie on May 31, 2012, 05:18:21 PM
Hmmmm. Could be wrong.

Are you sure this is possible Mr Flyn?

If it isn't and you're wasting my time I'll smash your teeth in.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: gatso on May 31, 2012, 05:23:28 PM
it is possible. I gave up and googled it. the solution is really easy to understand but ridic difficult to figure out


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: smashedagain on May 31, 2012, 05:30:07 PM
Hill1.               Hill 2.                Hill 3.                  Hill 4.         Hill 5.
                     Day 1/2.             Day 3/4.              Day5/6

Job done

This doesn't work because he could be on Hills 4 and 3 on Days 1-2, then just alternate between Hills 2 and 1 whilst you mess around with Hills 3 and 4 on the remaining days.
Says he moves to adjacent hill so can't get past you imo

Forget this I'm stupid


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: EvilPie on May 31, 2012, 05:40:59 PM
it is possible. I gave up and googled it. the solution is really easy to understand but ridic difficult to figure out

You can force him on to 3 holes easy enough. Just need to force him on to 2 then it's curtains to the little fella!!


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: kinboshi on May 31, 2012, 05:48:17 PM
Just whack the middle one every day.



...and ignore the moles?


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Cf on May 31, 2012, 07:00:05 PM
Slight change to 2 2 4 4 3 2

2 whacks on hole 2 forces him on to 3, 4 or 5.

Whack hole 4 means he's forced to be on 3 or 5 to still be alive.

Whack 4 again means he's either dead or on 2.

Whack 3 means he's either dead or on 1

Whack 2 means he's dead.

Don't think this quite works. When you first whack hole 4 he could move onto 2 which you don't consider.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: zerofive on May 31, 2012, 07:09:38 PM
So sure I've nailed it but don't want to post spoiler if it's right


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Claw75 on May 31, 2012, 07:16:27 PM
Just whack the middle one every day.



...and ignore the moles?

winner


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: EvilPie on May 31, 2012, 08:43:40 PM
Slight change to 2 2 4 4 3 2

2 whacks on hole 2 forces him on to 3, 4 or 5.

Whack hole 4 means he's forced to be on 3 or 5 to still be alive.

Whack 4 again means he's either dead or on 2.

Whack 3 means he's either dead or on 1

Whack 2 means he's dead.

Don't think this quite works. When you first whack hole 4 he could move onto 2 which you don't consider.

Yes I did :)

Hmmmm. Could be wrong.


It got to be along those lines though. You can just work it out the brute force way figuring out where he can possibly be. Don't think there's too many combinations to make that too tough.

Defo head scratcher and a good one.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Delboy on May 31, 2012, 08:51:38 PM
222324 ?


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: EvilPie on May 31, 2012, 09:10:06 PM
222324 ?

Mole's reply......

543212


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Claw75 on May 31, 2012, 09:30:25 PM
I've run out of spare inches of paper to write down six figure combos and cross them out


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Claw75 on May 31, 2012, 09:42:05 PM
223443 ???

edit: meh, no, nevermind.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: zerofive on May 31, 2012, 09:45:42 PM
EvilPie closest.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: RED-DOG on May 31, 2012, 09:47:38 PM
Hmmmm. Could be wrong.

Are you sure this is possible Mr Flyn?

If it isn't and you're wasting my time I'll smash your teeth in.


Please smash his teeth in anyway.

Go on, you know it makes sense.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Claw75 on May 31, 2012, 09:53:18 PM
222432 ?


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: EvilPie on May 31, 2012, 09:59:42 PM
222432 ?

Mole's reply......

434321


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Claw75 on May 31, 2012, 10:01:52 PM
222432 ?

Mole's reply......

434321

up yours moley.

i'm more determined than ever to catch the little bugger now.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Claw75 on May 31, 2012, 10:42:19 PM
right Mr Mole.  how about? 

224234 ??


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: kinboshi on May 31, 2012, 10:49:48 PM
right Mr Mole.  how about? 

224234 ??


432123...


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Claw75 on May 31, 2012, 10:50:49 PM
right Mr Mole.  how about? 

224234 ??


432123...


he's really pissing me off now


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: smashedagain on June 01, 2012, 12:14:42 AM
right Mr Mole.  how about? 

224234 ??


432123...


he's really pissing me off now
Lol


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Cf on June 01, 2012, 12:43:47 AM
Evilpies effort and approach was definitely along the right lines.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: Waz1892 on June 01, 2012, 12:50:37 AM
4 4 3 2 1


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: EvilPie on June 01, 2012, 12:53:40 AM
4 4 3 2 1

Moley's reply........

2 3 2 3 2


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: EvilPie on June 01, 2012, 12:55:23 AM
Got it. Won't spoil it though.

Good one CF.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: WotRTheChances on June 01, 2012, 01:24:13 AM
2,3,4,2,3,4

Hitting 2 first proves the mole didnt start at 2

Hitting 3 proves it couldnt have started at 4 and gone to 3

Hitting 4 proves it could not have started at 4, because it would have had to have gone to 5 and be back at 4

Hitting 2 will kill the mole if it started on an odd number mole-hill and has gone to 2 (the obv cycle odd->even->odd)

Hitting 3 will kill the mole if it was at 4 (it has to have been if we didnt kill it at 2 or in any previous step) and has gone to 3

Hitting 4 kills the mole if it had gone to 4 from 5 (which it will have to have done if still alive)


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: zerofive on June 01, 2012, 01:26:27 AM
Tom High wastes no time in spoiling it. Works backwards and inverse as well for the same reason.


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: WotRTheChances on June 01, 2012, 01:28:26 AM
Tom High wastes no time in spoiling it. Works backwards and inverse as well for the same reason.

Is it correct? Just spent a few mins mulling it over. If you go proving not odds 1st (as I did) it takes 7. Wasnt sure if it was waterproof


Title: Re: Puzzle
Post by: smashedagain on June 01, 2012, 08:03:35 AM
Tom High wastes no time in spoiling it. Works backwards and inverse as well for the same reason.

Is it correct? Just spent a few mins mulling it over. If you go proving not odds 1st (as I did) it takes 7. Wasnt sure if it was waterproof
Fml. Wish you would just have the one diary