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If you were going for an interview for a Job and had played poker for the last 2 1/2 years of your life would you lie in your c.v ?
                                                                                                       

What job are you going for?

99% of the time I would tell the truth.

Marketing Trade planning Assistant, one of my good friends think i will be ideal for the job, interview midday today :/ have prepared well but obv concern over poker......

For a job in marketing I would definitely tell them I was a poker player.

Absolutely no shame in it, and if they think differently, you don't want to work for them.

depends on the job.. If the skills are transferable whack it in

I am doing a maths degree and applying for maths type jobs and add in that i play poker as a serious hobby and list benefits along the lines of decision making, pressure situations big decisions and people skills etc.

The last job i applied for the interviewer played poker and we spoke for 10 minutes about poker! I got the job so must have worked!

i agree youll find most places wont mark you down for poker! If they do they are not open minded enough in my opnion!

I'm still in 2 minds........Have done alot of travelling(vegas, oz etc)so might just go down the route of that and then say looking for the ideal career path etc.....or come clean, tell them i made $90k in 3 years and blew it all rent/car/holidays etc.....the thing is "the camel" i really do want to work for them as it's 22k basic and my m8 in the department is on alot more.... ( suppose i should get some sleep now, will up date tomoz on how the interview went) thanks for the advice :)

Personally I would not tell them ...too many of the older generations still look down on poker

From a company point of veiew are you going to be late every day cos you've been at the casino till 5am!

^This

Tell the truth, always. If you don't, it'll come out on top at some stage, & then it gets awkward.

If you have secrets, eventually you'll end up in someone's pocket. Trust me, you will.

Your mate ought to be able to help you decide. He can tell you about the company culture and values. Hopefully he'll know the interviewer and be able to tell you something about them and their interests too. Look the interviewer up on Linkedin as well.

Good luck.

disagree, people will look badly on it but its not their fault, they just aren't educated about poker to a level where they can understand/appreciate the benefits.

i'd not mention it to be honest, unless you have lots of graphs etc and can show how profitable you were/are and how you used things (always being super relevant to the job and how it would help in different specific areas)

Def mention it (if its been 2 years of your life).

Find every positive about it and turn it into something they will appreciate.

1. BRM - discipline

2. Were you backed? Trust, Good record keeping and accounting which can easily be subject to 3rd party scrutiny

3. Self control and awareness

4. Tell them you worked regular hours (even maybe if you didnt)


Make them understand that this was your job. Make it easy for them to understand that you werent just setting fire to money.

Pleno is right, they absolutely wont understand, so you need a perfect 5 minute speech to MAKE them understand what being a pro grinder involves.

Finally - you need a very good answer as to why you are giving this up to get  a job - again find all the positives from the situation.

GLGL

Truth is always better.
You are who you are

I did this before and waffled on about dicipline, money management etc but the kind of questions you tend to get asked in interviews don't really suit poker playing.  I was a shoe-in for the job, but I really doubt I would have got it if there had been any competition. 

If I did it again, I would try to keep it simple and just say internet companies pay people who are willing to put in long hours through bonuses and rakeback.  Also I would really prep for the interview so that you have some decent answers for the many questions that suit someone in a conventional job but not poker playing.

A defininte no no. To most people poker is gambling. Think from the interviewers point of view. They dont want to give the job to someone with any risks attached. To them, the uninitiated, you could play late at night and arrive knackered each day, play at work, have a gambling problem, etc, etc. They may think worse if they see how much time and effort you put into it. There are certain things that have to stay out of cv's, and for now ,unfortunately, poker is definately one.

Tell truth, ainec. Any lies will just catch you out further down the road, you'll be surprised how many people are genuinely interested in what you've been doing.  

No.

It shows lack of ethics.

What you been doing last X years? Playing poker?

Fail.

Lying shows lack of ethics, too, & it will always come out on top eventually.

Perhaps agree on some level, but very unsure what telling an aployer about poker would achieve?

Sorry - this post is utter drivel. I can't believe the number of people that would rather employ a liar, whose trust and integrity is at question from day 1 than someone who plays poker.

Listen to this man he knows a thing or two about this

Also think the thread would benefit from Lucky McB posting

For anyone saying dont tell - GL in filling a 2.5 year void in your CV. I had a 6 month sabbatical on mine and in often raised more eyebrows than anything else.

If you don't get the job contact me or Tikay, we'd clearly give you a spin lol

I feel a little emabarrased now I didn't type a longer, more thought through post - however, I'm on the iPhone, at work after a 12 month break playing poker for a living.

However, whilst I fully acknowledge there are managers ad employers out there who may allow this to influence there decisions - I think that raises a bigger question, do you want to work for them?  I think on balance, as Tikay has said generally these things will come out. The alternative is and fill the gap or look like someone who hasn't Breen able to secure a role in the last two years; neither are attractive to an employer.

I would be proud of what you have achieved poker wise, however balance it with showing the same level of passion about the new role and be clear about the reasons why it's so attractive. There's quite a positive approach of making someone feel there company and role is more attractive than our lifestyle and that's why you're there.

Anyway, good luck - I hope it goes well.

Would you like to WORK for a liar? The geezer says he'll pay you x, but pays you less? Or says it is 50 hours per week, but it turns out to be 60?

Nope, of course you would not.

Now do the obverse thing.

yeah just tell the truth.  There seems to be this view that the general opinion among non-poker players is that it's a bad thing, only played by degenerate gamblers etc, but pretty much everyone I've ever told I play poker just finds it interesting more than anything else, and never had any negative reaction.  When I was out of work I attended a job-club type thing a few times a week and all the recruitment specialists that worked there said they thought it was a good thing to list as a hobby as a talking point.  If it's what you've been doing for a living I think it's even more important that you include it on your CV - just lay it out like any other regular job, listing the transferable skills etc.

Agree with this

Transferable skills involving numeracy etc, accentuate the positives

FWIW I wouldn't lie about it, got to turn it into a selling point.

Much depends on the open mindedness of the interviewer/company 

Hi Guy.

I did post this earlier.  "Your mate ought to be able to help you decide. He can tell you about the company culture and values. Hopefully he'll know the interviewer and be able to tell you something about them and their interests too. Look the interviewer up on Linkedin as well.

Good luck."

I'm also in the "honesty is the best policy" camp, and would explain it in the way others have suggested, linking skills used to skills needed in the new role.  I would also find out as much as possible about the company and the interviewer in advance, so that I'd have  a fair idea of how well received this is likely to be.

In my 20 s I would of thought differently and tried to hide the fact , but life experiences have dictated a big shift in mindset.

On a similar vein I had issues with girlfriends making ignorant judgements (although they were happy to accept holidays etc on the back of winnings)  one actually asked me to choose between poker and her...    Needless to say I still play poker   :)

If they know the facts from day one , then they will either accept you or not , in any case eventually the truth will come out and then you will look bad for witholding information.

Good interviewing technique beats lying all ends up.

Nice crisp ironed shirt, dark tie, shine those shoes, arive nice & early, firm handshake, make lots of good eye contact, & smile. Smiling is always a winner.

This man is just too good.

Firstly, avoid being in someones pocket like TK says and secondly turn up like a grownup to your interview and sell them the idea of the 'self run business' you've put on your CV.

Explain to them the entirety of the business first, what was involved, when, how, who you had to deal with, where it went and why you make $90k but now want a job.  Then when they say "what did you do?" tell them "I was a poker playing professional gambler".  With a smile, straight back and sell it with a wink if he/ she looks vunerable!


I have a wholly seperate issue in my job in that I have security clearances to deal with and I have to show/ prove I'm not a 'liability'... but that's a separate issue.



Any thinking/ sensible business man will see that you were successful and why, and will want to harness that success for themselves.

They're lucky you're asking for a job with them. Fact.

They will be intrigued if you say you were in poker, it fascinates outsiders, they'll think you are something special. Then they'll ask about poker, & off you go, you've got them beat all ends up now, because YOU are now in charge of the interview.

Better to raise than call, eh?

As a poker player I probably wouldn't employ another poker player, I know what they get up to  :D

So I guess if you've just come out of prison you should just be open about it in interviews? They will be all cool because you've been honest and will probably be very interested in your experiences right? Nah, wrong, in the real world they will just think gtfo. Telling a potential employer you spent the last 2 years gambling at cards is kinda noble and that but you deffo wont get the job. Honesty in job applications is a romantic notion because every cv on the employers desk wont be real. I would say I went travelling or worked for a friend's business before I said I was some busto card player.

um yes - 100%

"Oh great Mr Mantis, Ive travelled extensively too  - where did you go to? "

I think there are laws that cover people coming out of prision

As for a Poker player depends on what type of job you are going for - say for a Social Work type of role I would imagine people would see it as a problem but for a job in the private sector it would not be, if I am interviewing a poker player I would be looking up their Hendon Mob etc to see if their story does match up

And also people put so much crap on CVs nowadays that most people don't pay attention (ie you are getting this interview on the back of a friend?)

Like "going to the Cinema and meeting friends" - really - use it too set you apart (and don't be LATE, SMELLY, NEGATIVE, SHAVE, FIRM HANDSHAKE, EYE CONTACT AND HAVE SOME INTRESTING QUESTIONS)

gl

Friend of mine came out of prison few years ago, I don't usually have such uncultured friends btw. But point is he was honest in job interviews for 6 months and got rejected every time. Then he made up some outlandish shit about working for the European Commission for Small Businesses somewhere in eastern europe and got snap employed first interview. Still happy working there today.

Yes, allow plenty of time for your journey, so you get to the vicinity in good time, but don't go in too early.

Have  a coffee nearby if necessary but dont arrive at their office more than 10 minutes before your interview.  

Sadly I think it needs to be said that the poster will get a shock if he goes into the average interview thinking the average HR person is going to think positively over this. And what he needs to remember is the competition are unlikely to have a CV with a ‘great unknown’ in it, that the employer has to juggle with.  Mantis has firmed up my belief that there are some things that stay off CV's. Its all well and good having a holier than thou 'dont lie' attitude but the reality is I know of very few people that dont spice up their cv or leave out the negatives.
The only reason we can discuss this is because the poster has managed to get an interview before the CV has been seen. If he had sent it in, this would not be being discussed.
I only posted on this thread as I have experience of reading, digesting and breaking down cvs (over 50 for 1 position is the norm).

this

In all seriousness in my industry, if they had poker player on their CV they wouldn't even get an interview. People can give it the honestly bit all they want but that is just the truth I'm afraid.

Finally the poster might want to take this question to an impartial site. A business forum for instance. Its fair to say us poker players wont see it in the same light as the average HR type. Either way hopefully as a result of mine and others replies the poster will be in a position to make a more informed decision as to how he wants to tackle this dilemma

Depends on the company, who's interviewing you, what the role is, etc.

It would be nice if you could be 100% honest in the CV and interview process, but that's not always possible.  I'm sure a lot of CVs would be discarded and you wouldn't get to the interview stage if you put your last two years' experience down as 'Poker Player'.  It might be relevant to the role, it might provide evidence of must-have transferable skills directly related to the role, BUT if the person responsible for the initial vetting of CVs and interviews has to choose between someone who has played poker for the past two years and someone else who has been helping build a school in Botswana  - they might make a decision based on their lack of knowledge of the two things.

If you're applying for a job at a big blue-chip company, a lot of the time the HR department will be the ones doing the vetting.  They don't really give a shit about finding out if poker is an honourable living, they're not being employed to bring in risky candidates, they're often looking for a reason to discard CVs and applications from the thousands they receive.

Of course, you can be lucky and the interviewer at the company plays poker or has an interest - then you might elevate yourself to the top of his list.  But is that likely to be the case?  Interviews are often very poor methods for companies to find the correct candidate for a role, part of the flaw is that personal prejudices and preconceived ideas come into play.  If you play rugby and the interviewer is a rugby player too, your chances rocket.  If you play rugby and the interviewer makes jam tarts for the local fête at the village church and dislikes competition and sport then you're going to have to work a hell of a lot harder to climb to the top of the short-list.  I think a lot of interviewers won't "get" poker. If you get the chance to discuss it at the interview, you might have a chance to 'educate' them and win them over.  That's if you actually get that far.

If asked,by law yes, under the rehabilitation of offenders act, you must declare, when asked, any occurrence of "unspent" convictions.

Most employers have the question set in their applications. To not declare would render immediate dismissal if found out about later.

It isn't just prison sentences either, which catch a few people out. You even have to declare fines, probations and absolute discharges for a certain period of time.

There is a table relating to the time period that these must be declared, dependant of severity of punishment, under the Rehab of Offenders act online.

I know a couple of folk who have been caught out by not declaring simple fines. Whilst the offence which incurred the fine may not neccessarily have stopped them getting the job in the first place, by lying on their application they were instantly dismissed.

Edit: Most employers will only apply for a criminal records report after places are given as it is a long and costly process. I have seen the requests take up to 4 months to be completed by the CRO.

Geo

Some mixed and in some cases poor advice itt.

It's all dependent on the job, the company and the way you are able to describe and articulate what you have been doing plus whether you have any other work experience to draw upon. In general though it is not good to lie on your Cv and can have disastrous consequences. Post some more details on the job, type of company, level of seniority etc.

I have worked in HR and recruitment for 10 years and have also had 2 years off work playing poker and i too had a gap to explain so I maybe able to offer some advice.

Good luck, be honest and true to yourself.

Candidate: 'As you can see from my CV I've been playing poker for the past couple of years. I've included my profit graphs and hourly rates so you can clearly see the positives of this endeavour. Any questions?'

Interviewer: 'Just one - how much did you lose?'

*candidate punches interviewer*

If people I. The thread think it sounds bad you shouldn't mention it.


DUCY

3 HR/recruitment guys have all said dont lie

Im awaiting Mantis to tell me "where he went travelling"

I once had a guy lie to me in an interview, it does 2 things

1. Insta loses you the job
2. Provides the interviewer with an hour of fun in making you squirm (in what is generally a tedious task)

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the response/advice. I'll try and address as many points made as
possible, then tell you what i decided to do........
(for those that don't know me, I've only just turned 23, have been
lucky enough to travel some of the world, experimented with poker, and will still
play as a hobby but feel it is time for some stability and a career in my life)

Tikay-     I totally agree with you about being Truthful and Honest  and i have been that
all my life, and it makes me sick having to tell lies/ bend the truth to try and
secure a successful job. "Nice crisp ironed shirt, dark tie, shine those shoes, arive
nice & early, firm handshake, make lots of good eye contact, & smile. Smiling is
always a winner"-   did you just describe me ?

Lucky -    My mate is my best friend from school and i have grown up with him and it
was he that advised me to not mention poker, and go with the travelling for 1 year
and working for my uncle's business for over a year writing up quotes/invoices for a
succesfull alarm company, (obviously getting a reference isn't a problem)

PLeno1/outragous - I also believe people will look badly on it, and wont give me the
time of day, even if i can prove numerous online winning graphs, BRM, being backed
once for wsop 2011, grinding to keep fuel in my car, pay rent, holidays etc.

(own_u2- fulltilt, weasley2-pokerstars,ownu2- ipoker, th777-microgaming etc, but in
all honesty what Employer gives two shits that i won some poker tourneys online when now i'm
applying for jobs which obvioulsy shows i'm not that great at BRM, grinding etc)

claypole - I am a very proud person in what i have achieved and who i am......you
make some great points and i sort of wish i made this thread early in the week to
maybe give myself more preparation time and to change my mind about what i said in
the interview.

Mantis- "Nah, wrong, in the real world they will just think gtfo" AGREE!
blueace - "but the reality is I know of very few people that dont spice up their cv  
               or leave out the negatives." AGREE!
Junior - thanks, i might pm you for some advice
Andrew t - BRILLIANT!

Transferable skills - as a poker player speaking in a poker community i agree that
these skills can be used for the role of being a salesman/marketing assisstant in
media, but i'm not sure the 3 women interviewing me would have agreed. probably
totally differant if it were 3 men interviewing me- like tightend says much depends
on the openmindness of the interviewer/company.

so to conclude.... i arrived very smart, punctual, cheeky grin as usual, polite,
friendly, charasmatic, honest ( except for when they asked what have i done for 2
years i told them a great deal of travelling to the world's finest places and sites
and then helped my uncle out with his company)- cowardly i know and makes me feel
ashamed that i cant come clean because i am v.proud of what i have acheived/done and
shouldnt feel like i should have to hide anything......

ps. The interview went terrible and when i mentioned that i travelled to South Dakota, the sour faced women in the corner chirped up for the first time.... with her extended knowledge on "Mount Rushmore........."  

FMFL !

Lol, great repy! Think "outrageous" owned the thread with a soul-read.

A lie can run around the world before truth gets its boots on. Dunno who said that, but he was not far off.

Similar to Senior Junior said, it is tricky to give specific advice without all of the information at hand, although I generally stand by the "be honest approach" in every situation - albeit tailored to the audience / interviewer.  If you find yourself in this situation again, gather as much info as you can about the company, role, interviewer, sector etc and I will be more than happy to have a chat on skype if I can help.

I do appreciate the challenge for a lot of you younger guys who have just played poker post Uni - I think the big advantage myself and Greg have is we had somewhat proved ourselves career wise before making decisions to take breaks to play; this does make it somewhat simpler to re-enter work; especially if you are good at what you do and have a solid CV.

If you're looking for work, some generic advice would be target companies, sectors, roles that are more likely to embrace your history; likelihood is you will enjoy working there more and be more committed to your career there.  I know we all have life commitments and need to make ends meet; however too many people forget that the employment relationship is a two way thing and relationships where you are not engaged in the company and its business aren't productive for anyone.

A sweeping generalisation I know, but based on the cross section of the successful younger players I have met I think most are most likely to get some success if they set up on their own - many are bright, numerate, pretty sharp, driven to learn and probably wouldn't fit with corporate life.

Good luck in the job search - if you  don't get any luck just spin up and take a few shots at $5/$10

THIS! Great post.

Listen to this man Thomas!

Climbing that corporate Ladder mate? Seriously, you are not "Harvester" material!

You have no idea how much I love that line!

sorry to hear it didn't go well.

Always another etc.

This.

There's always the option to say you went travelling, and funded it through playing poker online.  Sounds less degen, and instead sounds resourceful (and appears to be a money earner rather than just gambling).  Makes a change from working in bars, etc.

Really appreciate your advice, and no doubt i will find myself in this situation again as i hope to have more interviews lined up...(hear back from this one fri, I'm doubtful but you never know, sometimes the Employer invests in the person, and i feel i came across self-assured without being over-confident) It would be great to talk on skype but i dnt want everyone to have my contact info, so ok if i pm it to you?  I believe i took my shots last year at the wsop events, cash, roulette :( can you sit in the rio 5/10 games these days with 10 bigs ? if so.....poker may be back on the menu!


Ha ha thanks i thought you meant poker didn't go well.....i was going to say that went well(ish) untill now(ish)....... but yeh great for experience,  either way, was actually quite fun!

getting a foot in the door with cv gaps/poker is the hardest step imo. once you reach an interview stage they will most likely have made their decision on whether that matters to them or not.
Give recruitment firms a try but make sure u find a reputable one. they take more time to understand ur past and will then be able to find the right fit company to send u to.

I think you'd be surprised at the number of people that wouldn't completely mug you off over poker

This one is about renting a flat rather than getting a job but theres still a vetting process to get through:
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=56078.0

I hadn't seen this at the time but this is the landlord:
http://helynnosa.com/


If I'd seen that before I probably wouldn't have even bothered going for the viewing, but she was completely cool with it and actually found it very interesting.

Mantis.


(http://www.weirdspace.dk/RogerHargreaves/Graphics/MissContrary.gif)

^^^^

had to look it up  ;D

Haha, please nobody post it and ruin the sweat for anyone

wp Tom

is this you?

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=180271

happy to help either way. We've played together before... you definately should get a proper job! :-)

zzzzzzzzinnnnnnnnnggggggg

People that interview in this style are twats

"ps. The interview went terrible and when i mentioned that i travelled to South Dakota, the sour faced women in the corner chirped up for the first time.... with her extended knowledge on "Mount Rushmore........." 

They need to remember to set aside personal preferences (Rugby, Sewing or whatever) and remember their job is to hire the best talent for their company/for the specific role and also to remember they are also there to sell the company to good candidates (who I assume they are interviewing if not why get them in)

Have to rember good people are hard to fine and sometimes good people have FLAGS

I have got to ask why?  It isn't like they brought up South Dakota.  If you don't want people to ask questions about South Dakota in an interview, don't introduce the topic. 

I am not sure travelling is much better than poker as an explanation for a gap on a CV.  Just as poker suggests degenerate gambler to many, travelling suggests waster to quite a few others.  If you are in the lying camp, then I think you should lie about something that is  more positive. 

FWIW I am in the truth will out camp.  The questions on the travelling won't just stop at the interview.  I expect your new colleagues will be far more interested in that than your time you spent working for your uncle.  I don't know about anybody else, but in my field quite a cottage industry has grown up in investigating people's past.

Good luck

South Dakota is a standard interview question

if you're planning to lie in your next interview as well you should probably edit the post where you tell us your name just in case the interviewer has one of those computers with google on it

I don't think putting on a 'cheeky grin' is the best approach to have in an interview. And referring to a member of the panel as 'the sour faced woman in the corner' isn't the best attitude to relationship building either. If the woman conducting the interview is sour faced it was a fail long before South Dakota imo. Getting people to like you is far and away the most important achievement in an interview room. Saying the sour faced one chirped up with a question is a funny way of looking at an interview and is a mentality that prob wont bring much success. It's not like the sour face was ever turning into big smiles if you mentioned the gambling on cards instead. Yeah man seriously think about losing the cheeky grin. And nice firm handshake not this limp lettuce variety which seems to be creeping in.

Wpwp...... and based on this.....


I will simply say that beautifull, 18 year old, olive skinned, strawberry blonde, Brad Pitt lookalike is a fine looking gentleman.


A cheeky grin/smile is just who i am, and i wouldnt change the way i am with people for any job/money. obv the sour face comment was just light jest and a reaction to say that basically she caught me off guard and i would have much preferred a question on Florida/California/Vegas. Also, a firm handshake with 2 Lovely, Smart, 5ft 3 Intelligent Marketting Managers and 1 'sour faced woman' would have been more insulting imo than  one of the 'limp lettuce' variety.

eh? why?

Because I'm considerate, and how i shake hands is dependant on who i shake hands with, if this really matters......an example would be if i was to shake my mums hand, not that i would, but if i did, it would be 'limp lettuce' like......because she is fragile and small, and i am big. If i was to shake 'Tony Bedford's hand, i would shake it 'firm' because he is also big.

No need to get your knickers in a twist - just found it odd that you thought it might be somehow insulting to shake a woman's hand properly in a business setting. I can't stand those limp lettuces and there is a big difference between firm and bone-crushing. And what if those women - god forbid - then thought you might be gay?

oops, I'm really sorry, I didn't realise you're a lady....... and yes there is a big difference between firm and bone crushing, i was just a bit miffed when mantis mentioned about my mentality which prob wont lead to much success, becasue i was obviously thinking about her being 'sour faced' at the time, and gave her no respect.  :/ Anyway i've had a really long day topped off with a Badminton session and a match for over 3 hours then afew beers so i'm going to bed now........apologies again claw

wish I'd quoted your post now coz my reply looks a bit ott!  It's ok - I don't expect any kind of 'special' reply or apology coz I've got tits in the same way I wouldn't expect a crappy handshake ;)

1: What's wrong with being gay?

2: We've all got tits.

3: Claw's a lady?

1. nothing, obv.  I'm also pretty sure there is no correlation between one's sexuality and one's ability to shake hands properly.  that comment was in reply to something that TH edited out of his post after I responded.

2. fair point.

3. *sings* I may not be a lady, but I'm alllllll woman

Pics or it didn't happen.

1. Obviously there is nothing wrong with being gay, and some of the finest people i know/ have had the pleasure to meet are gay......however, when you're not gay and people think that you are, which could/could not be based on the limp lettuce variety of handshake and the firm handshake, you could say there is some correlation. This probably has something to do with the prejudice world we live in.

2. I'm in this category

3. I don't know claw.

So, you are not gay???????? ;gobsmacked; ;bumwiggle;

gfy bignose, is this you ?

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/the_kimo/Bruce_bald_and_big_nose_2_copy.jpg

I didnt realise you were gay Tom. You learn something new every day.

I'm not experienced in an interview environment but if you take the attitude that you've displayed in this thread into a job interview I can see you looking for a while.

Hi th777,

Nice blog.

I've met you oce and had a really bad experience you wet being verbally offensive and were horrible to play with, you do come across like a nice guy online tho

Unfortunately this is very true.

bahaha gl with this. You've clearly not seen my hands.

You know what they say about big hands...

big gloves?

I thought it was big socks...

We've left that all behind - I think the debate is now whether OP will ever get a man because his hands are too big.

 ;applause; brilliant!

WOW! I've just got in and seen this..... I'm guessing this is a joke ???? Because i have alot of respect/etiquette at the poker table for everyone and anybody.....and find this really hard to believe pleno??? as ANYONE i know i'm sure will say.  SERIOUSLY!! VERBALLY OFFENSIVE??? I'm like a mouse lol. please include more details pleno ?

I have only ever fallen out with ONE person over a discrepancy EVER IN POKER IN 6 YEARS! and unless he is your friend(which is possible) you have probably only heard one side of the story and i'm not going to go into more details or say his name, unless he wants to comment on here..............(more than welcome)

As for the big nose comment, lamm is one of my closest mates and this is banter.

 
Dan, what attitude m8? seriously was having a fun night.......fml :(

you wear a blue stars hoody yeh?

Can vouch for Tom, having played a decent number of times with him, he's never done anything like you suggest pleno nor given me any reason to believe he's capable of it.

Might e a different person but it was a guy called Tom, blonde hair wearing a blue stars hoody and was the first ever grab pros that dtd ran an was at the 6nax side event. Long time ago and maybe not even you.

LOL i have done yes.......carry on..........

thanks alex, and i don't even know alex that well.............

sounds like me........... grab pro's ? i'm more strawberry blonde

Haha sorry, gran priz's. We had been playing cash and losing on average 100 a hand for an hour and then when the 6nax comp started I ended up getting moved to your table, I remember you saying some quite ba stuff and was getting some unneeded rub downs and comments web I was simply just trying to donate like a fish. I I was a normal local fish I would definitely have been out off going back.

Obviously was just that one day as you seem popular with all the regs.

Gl with the diary!

jeeeez....that sucks for me! The last thing i would want is to come across/give unnecessary rub downs to anyone. I mean that hoddie isn't even mine lol it's Ben Dobsons......i think i must have borrowed it from his as i didnt have a spare t-shirt as i'm from peterborough..... also, if this was near the beginning of my poker playing i sincerely apologise and i have learnt alot since then. This isn't supposed to be a diary and i just wanted to create this thread to get advice from anyone that's been in a similar position to me that have now landed a job they want. I have acheived this, so it's probably best that i dont post again.... because if it wasn't for alex whom read this and replied you'd still have the same opinion? :(

I guess, I guess I was kind of a dick and then anti railed you from then on in updates etc. Sorry though.

Sorry for even posting it, guess it was bad of me. How about working in the poker industry and then you wouldn't need to lie, it would be beneficial if anything :)

Enjoying the diary Tom.

lol.....now i'm going to get slated for making another comment box when i said i wasnt going too..............
I mean I'm open too any ideas for jobs..... i mean i'd like to think my c.v still looks v.good except for my poker career, in which i've had some amazing times.
no worries pleno... you at the chipleader tourney? I'll buy you a drink if i can scrape together some coins :)

I wouldn't buy him a drink! I like pleno, but that was out of order of him bringing up an incident from years ago that he wasn't even sure was you. I think he realises this too so no biggie. But he should buy you a drink imo, plus he's got the lot so won't have trouble scraping together the coin!

Re-read the thread and actually I think that was pretty harsh, so I apologise. I guess I misconstrued some of your posts on first reading.

gl with the job thing but if you made decent money in the last 3 years why don't you just keep on going, cut down your expenses and end up with a lot more money?

Or even better keep on playing and set up our own company. Pokerstrategy.com are just about to launch trading which will be an educational site teaching primarily poker players how to trade, perhaps this would fit the bill ideally.

I will most probably still be playing poker as a hobby as i love it more than badminton(close, actually) and pizza (also, v.close) but all my close friends have good jobs after graduating, and i just feel like now i need to grow out of the pro poker player thing(which was obv good when i had money/was binking, going on holidays etc) and find a stable income.

as we all know about tourney variance it's just far higher than i ever realised....plus full tilt screwed me.....and pleno i'm open to any ideas....like i said, this was my first proper interview and i'm sure i will be going to many more if i don't get this one (find out tomoz, but 6 other people applied and 2 of them already worked in another department ) :(

What did you do In university/what kind of route would you ideally like to go down? You can do anything in the gang industry doesn't have to be related at all to poker.. Accountancy... Law... Receptionist.. Hr.. Anything. Can have a look tomorrow and let you know in the thread what's available.

Acting and film studies...i feel anything in media would suit me best. Sweet, might have just secured my 2nd interview......

watch this space


HAHA

I wouldn't wear the blue stars hoody for interviews either btw.

Just to conclude, lets lose the cheeky grin, the limp lettuce handshake, and the hoody, then we should be good to go.

Fair enough Pleno - good luck with the venture.

What does he do about his big hands though?

Tell the interviewer you're a pro pokerer, explain you have an insane edge and then try for staking.

I think it's definately a good idea to look at other employment options outside of just playing poker. The bubble may burst eventually and it certainly is a game you can work hard on in your spare time and at weekends and by doing that you get a better overall life balance. Poker isn't everything, it's just something. You may even find when you play more for enjoyment and not to feed yourself your results actually improve.

Good luck, at 23 with no real commitments the world is your lobster! (ogden 1985)

Mantis, you are very funny and always like to have the last laugh....but seriously have u stolen that hoody from me because i lost it time ago and would like it back ?
Kinboshi i forgot to mention that i really appreciate your advice further up in the thread, and i havn't got big hands i've got pianist hands, and i dnt know where all the banter started maybe because i said i'm big???
dungBeetle i'm guessing pleno replied to you, but i really have no idea what you're talking about.
thanks junior, yeh i'm still young, not too worried about life tbh atm i'm sure i'll be just fine no matter what some people on here think. yeh i totally agree that poker results are  hugely determined by state of mind and that a big % of my poker downswing has been when i needed to win most :(

update- i'm yet to hear back from that job today so i'm guessing it's a no :(