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Title: anon trouble Post by: pleno1 on June 07, 2012, 08:27:17 PM its anonymous. no reads obv, thoughts on it all?
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Prima) $400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, June 07, 09:15:47 ET 2012 Table Anon Holdem 11 400 Max (Real Money) Seat 6 is the button Seat 1: Player1 ( $684.30 USD ) - VPIP: 27, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3.8, Hands: 164 Seat 2: Player2 ( $404.53 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 11, AF: 4.2, Hands: 176 Seat 3: Player3 ( $1128.00 USD ) - VPIP: 28, PFR: 21, 3B: 6, AF: 2.1, Hands: 174 Seat 4: Player4 ( $248.00 USD ) - VPIP: 37, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 2.3, Hands: 116 Seat 5: Hero ( $554.00 USD ) - VPIP: 31, PFR: 24, 3B: 11, AF: 2.5, Hands: 42542 Seat 6: Player6 ( $394.00 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 12, AF: 3.0, Hands: 168 Player1 posts small blind [$2.00 USD]. Player2 posts big blind [$4.00 USD]. Dealt to Hero [ Kh Ks ] Player3 raises [$12.00 USD] Player4 folds Hero raises [$40.00 USD] Player6 folds Player1 folds Player2 folds Player3 calls [$28.00 USD] ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, Tc, 3c ] Player3 checks Hero checks ** Dealing Turn ** [ Td ] Player3 bets [$124.00 USD] Hero calls [$124.00 USD] ** Dealing River ** [ Qd ] Player3 bets [$964.00 USD] Hero calls [$390.00 USD] Title: Re: anon trouble Post by: Patonius2000 on June 07, 2012, 09:28:46 PM Looks good, like the flop check, call call now. This should be pretty much the top of your range (other than Tx ofc) and he should cc some value hands otr given how draw heavy your perceived flop chk range is likely to be. Obviously you can bet that flop too if you want.
Title: Re: anon trouble Post by: pleno1 on June 07, 2012, 10:24:51 PM can you post the range you gave him mate?
Title: Re: anon trouble Post by: TL900 on June 08, 2012, 02:33:32 PM has no-one noticed the fact hes overbet turn and overbet river?
Title: Re: anon trouble Post by: BorntoBubble on June 14, 2012, 12:49:51 AM Haha jj you feel like your getting slow rolled the results ;) I think it's a call on phone so not much space for explanation more hands your beating then loosing to basically!!
Title: Re: anon trouble Post by: skolsuper on June 14, 2012, 12:27:05 PM Looks good, like the flop check, call call now. This should be pretty much the top of your range (other than Tx ofc) and he should cc some value hands otr given how draw heavy your perceived flop chk range is likely to be. Obviously you can bet that flop too if you want. Think it's also pretty much the bottom of our range to 3b pre and call the turn overbet. Also, I know this overbet line is kind of in fashion right now, but this is a terrible board run out for it, I personally think a bluff is v unlikely and don't think we beat any value hands. Title: Re: anon trouble Post by: pleno1 on June 14, 2012, 03:52:58 PM yeh i paid the man and he had the king queen of green.
Title: Re: anon trouble Post by: SuuPRlim on June 14, 2012, 06:29:08 PM I like the flop check agree these overbet lines often are unbalanced and value heavy if we're sposed to fold where are we sposed to fold? The turn or the river?
Both seem s very hard to fold in a vacuum. Title: Re: anon trouble Post by: skolsuper on June 14, 2012, 07:35:02 PM I like the flop check agree these overbet lines often are unbalanced and value heavy if we're sposed to fold where are we sposed to fold? The turn or the river? Both seem s very hard to fold in a vacuum. The river, and honestly I'd find it pretty easy. Title: Re: anon trouble Post by: Patonius2000 on June 15, 2012, 01:31:51 PM Looks good, like the flop check, call call now. This should be pretty much the top of your range (other than Tx ofc) and he should cc some value hands otr given how draw heavy your perceived flop chk range is likely to be. Obviously you can bet that flop too if you want. Think it's also pretty much the bottom of our range to 3b pre and call the turn overbet. Also, I know this overbet line is kind of in fashion right now, but this is a terrible board run out for it, I personally think a bluff is v unlikely and don't think we beat any value hands. Well I could be way off the mark with my post, I don't play 6 max nl online very much nowadays. If someone who is more in tune with the games gives me a population read that this is always a value line then I'm fine with going with that and folding. But I thought my post was appropriate because in a poker forum we aren't talking population reads most of the time, we're talking poker theory because that is the most appropriate subject for the context of poker forum. I can't stand threads that go round and round in circles with "no one does this as a bluff" or "everyone is light here nowadays". In this case and at the risk of sounding like a massive donk, we didn't check the flop to fold to a turn and river bet on this runout. If the fact that villain overbet makes you want to change your mind and make an exploitative play by folding then that is obviously fine. Title: Re: anon trouble Post by: skolsuper on June 15, 2012, 02:06:02 PM Looks good, like the flop check, call call now. This should be pretty much the top of your range (other than Tx ofc) and he should cc some value hands otr given how draw heavy your perceived flop chk range is likely to be. Obviously you can bet that flop too if you want. Think it's also pretty much the bottom of our range to 3b pre and call the turn overbet. Also, I know this overbet line is kind of in fashion right now, but this is a terrible board run out for it, I personally think a bluff is v unlikely and don't think we beat any value hands. Well I could be way off the mark with my post, I don't play 6 max nl online very much nowadays. If someone who is more in tune with the games gives me a population read that this is always a value line then I'm fine with going with that and folding. But I thought my post was appropriate because in a poker forum we aren't talking population reads most of the time, we're talking poker theory because that is the most appropriate subject for the context of poker forum. I can't stand threads that go round and round in circles with "no one does this as a bluff" or "everyone is light here nowadays". In this case and at the risk of sounding like a massive donk, we didn't check the flop to fold to a turn and river bet on this runout. If the fact that villain overbet makes you want to change your mind and make an exploitative play by folding then that is obviously fine. It's possible that the GTO line vs the river overbet is a fold whereas vs a normal sized bet would be a call. |