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Title: Whats the plan?
Post by: outragous76 on June 11, 2012, 11:18:51 AM
This is the Sunday 500, pretty common to have someone peel IP, this hand made me chuckle thou

In all seriousness, as each one is flicking it in, what is the plan, before the flop is dealt when this short (circa 25bb's)

PokerStars Hand #81782921451: Tournament #576020018, $500+$30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2012/06/10 22:54:13 UTC [2012/06/10 18:54:13 ET]
Table '576020018 30' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: rattewilli (14727 in chips)
Seat 2: IDOLLS (9928 in chips)
Seat 3: LuckBox26 (8449 in chips)
Seat 4: Vinkyy (14543 in chips)
Seat 5: outragous76 (11367 in chips)
Seat 6: Assassinato (16630 in chips)
Seat 7: LanaPrincess (14088 in chips)
Seat 8: OBVAMENTS (30119 in chips)
Seat 9: isla_86 (14248 in chips)
rattewilli: posts the ante 40
IDOLLS: posts the ante 40
LuckBox26: posts the ante 40
Vinkyy: posts the ante 40
outragous76: posts the ante 40
Assassinato: posts the ante 40
LanaPrincess: posts the ante 40
OBVAMENTS: posts the ante 40
isla_86: posts the ante 40
LuckBox26: posts small blind 200
Vinkyy: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to outragous76 [  Ks Kc]
outragous76: raises 465 to 865
Assassinato: calls 865
LanaPrincess: folds
OBVAMENTS: calls 865
isla_86: calls 865
rattewilli: calls 865
IDOLLS: folds
LuckBox26: folds
Vinkyy: folds


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: dakky on June 11, 2012, 11:22:07 AM
check jamming a lot depends on texture. Sighing when it checks through tho


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: outragous76 on June 11, 2012, 11:25:15 AM
check jamming a lot depends on texture

Yeah, I was obv hoping for 22T  ;D

As it happened the flop  and action left me with a trivial check fold (AJxdd), but as they we each flicking it in, I was just thinking my hand was deader than the dead thing from deadville even before the cards were dealt.


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: Doobs on June 11, 2012, 12:24:05 PM
Collect 50p


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: Doobs on June 11, 2012, 12:24:56 PM
Clear fold on flop regardless of our plan


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: FUN4FRASER on June 11, 2012, 12:25:57 PM
Clear fold on flop regardless of our plan

 :)


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: outragous76 on June 11, 2012, 12:38:52 PM
Collect 50p

Really nothing 50p about it.

I am genuinely interested about a thought process being OOP to 4 players. There are so many flops that we dislike, I was almost happy to see the flop to make the decision very very trivial


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: Doobs on June 11, 2012, 01:35:15 PM
Not sure what we can hope to learn here.  Do we want something positive or negative out of this post?

 We absolutely don't want 4 callers here as it messes up our plan.  Not only that but it is so unusual in a 500 online tournament we aren't ever going to plan for it.  I suppose we could raise more to avoid it, but that would just be hindsight thinking.  We should just think yuck I wasn't expecting that in my view.

The flop comes down as it did and it at least we don't get any of the tricky decisions we could on some other boards with a shortish stack and a big pot in front of us playing OOP.  Best to take that as a positive and move on.



 


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: Junior Senior on June 12, 2012, 09:44:55 AM
Plan is obv flop a king


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: david3103 on June 12, 2012, 09:51:32 AM
Plan is obv flop a king and an ace

fyp


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: youthnkzR on June 12, 2012, 10:34:35 AM
Plan is obv flop a king

this would work


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: parker on June 12, 2012, 01:00:41 PM
figure the only player to peel an ace would be plus 1?

any others would have raised.

do you think they are over calling with small pairs?

didnt know you had chompy in seat 3.


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: pleno1 on June 12, 2012, 03:29:37 PM
They can def flat suited ax in position. Id just proceed with caution on most boards.


Title: Re: Whats the plan?
Post by: parker on June 12, 2012, 03:47:10 PM
caution being check fold?