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Title: tough spot in 3b pot
Post by: pleno1 on June 12, 2012, 05:31:39 PM
villain is normal reg but vs me he is super aggro in position (because i peel alot of 3bets and he probably thinks he has a post flop edge - he doesnt) we are 200bbs deep here so not folding and his 3bet increases vs me when we are deeper.


thoughts? anyone got any fps in them ?

Player4 posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
Player5 posts big blind [$4.00 USD].
Dealt to Hero [  9c 9h ]
Player1 folds
Hero raises [$12.00 USD]
Player3 raises [$40.00 USD]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Hero calls [$28.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, 8c, Jc ]
Hero checks
Player3 bets [$58.00 USD]
Hero calls [$58.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
Hero checks
Player3 bets [$152.00 USD]
Hero folds


Title: Re: tough spot in 3b pot
Post by: prettygreen on June 12, 2012, 05:58:02 PM
Why is villain not better than you post flop?


Title: Re: tough spot in 3b pot
Post by: pleno1 on June 12, 2012, 06:23:15 PM
Because I'm plenofkn1 met


Title: Re: tough spot in 3b pot
Post by: pleno1 on June 12, 2012, 06:24:46 PM
In all seriousness his strategy is good but I wouldn't defend if I didn't think of was profitable too. I was unsure about playing this texture with my hand strength vs his range.. I think c/r bomb bomb is best but happy to be swayed otherwise


Title: Re: tough spot in 3b pot
Post by: pokerfan on June 12, 2012, 06:26:28 PM
Because I'm plenofkn1 met

 ;tightend;


Title: Re: tough spot in 3b pot
Post by: jezza777 on June 12, 2012, 07:44:00 PM
I think if we want to be playing the hand after the flop then calling his flop bet is a bit meh. We should c/r here as his preflop 3 betting range is going to dislike the flop texture a lot of the time.


Title: Re: tough spot in 3b pot
Post by: Mondeoman on June 13, 2012, 03:56:26 PM
Cant see many hands villain is folding to a raise that we dont already have beat.  Looks like he has a pretty strong hand or air imo.  Problem with trying to bluff raise is there is a flush draw on the flop and he'll prob just put you on this and wont fold overpairs - If the board was rainbow its better to go nutso on imo.

Depending on his tendencies should prob fold to turn barrel its a pretty bad card for him to be continuing on.


Title: Re: tough spot in 3b pot
Post by: pleno1 on June 13, 2012, 03:59:06 PM
I think c/r the turn would be really bad it was more a question of call/call or fold now. But was also interested on c/r flop as I think that whilst overpairs may be stubborn on the flop theres going to be alot of bad run outs for him, especially when deep. I do agree with all your post though and did elect to fold.


Title: Re: tough spot in 3b pot
Post by: Mondeoman on June 13, 2012, 04:33:58 PM
mmmm calling or folding is really villain dependent - against an average player think its a fold. 

Wouldn't want to craise the flop personally as we have a gut shot and possibly the best hand. 
Also if we start going bananas then accidently hit a good card for us its difficult to get paid.
If I was going to c raise folp id rather have say 79, 56, q10.

Also being deep increases opponents positional advantage - its just as easy for him to make your life hell as it is his even if you do have blockers to the nuts.



Title: Re: tough spot in 3b pot
Post by: pleno1 on June 13, 2012, 05:09:26 PM
Yeh, thanks for the comment regarding positional advantage increasing as stacks increase.  I think all of the hands ^^ are mandatory flop c/raises and think jx becomes more of a mandatory call down however think we are going to be calling flop folding turn/river a huge amount.

Also think cards that improve us don't have that much implied odds, in fact possibly the reverse as I imagine most of the middle/even the top of his value range will check back when the one liner comes.