Title: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: aaron1867 on June 13, 2012, 02:50:33 AM I have found two really stupid ones.
I was queuing in a shop and some guy had got loads of random crap from around the shop and I mean it was random! But along with his spray tan, endless amounts of pasta, there was also painkillers and apparently you are not allowed to buy so many of these, ya knows, just in case ya guna top ya self? But why is this stupid? Because you can just go next door and buy the limit again! Stupid! Another one I found that I couldn't believe is that you are not allowed to pay for things that are mor ethan 10/20p with pennies! What a stupid law that is! Any more? Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: Doobs on June 13, 2012, 06:22:02 AM I have found two really stupid ones. I was queuing in a shop and some guy had got loads of random crap from around the shop and I mean it was random! But along with his spray tan, endless amounts of pasta, there was also painkillers and apparently you are not allowed to buy so many of these, ya knows, just in case ya guna top ya self? But why is this stupid? Because you can just go next door and buy the limit again! Stupid! Another one I found that I couldn't believe is that you are not allowed to pay for things that are mor ethan 10/20p with pennies! What a stupid law that is! Any more? More suggests you have found one already ;) Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: Doobs on June 13, 2012, 08:40:07 AM I have found two really stupid ones. I was queuing in a shop and some guy had got loads of random crap from around the shop and I mean it was random! But along with his spray tan, endless amounts of pasta, there was also painkillers and apparently you are not allowed to buy so many of these, ya knows, just in case ya guna top ya self? But why is this stupid? Because you can just go next door and buy the limit again! Stupid! Another one I found that I couldn't believe is that you are not allowed to pay for things that are mor ethan 10/20p with pennies! What a stupid law that is! Any more? More suggests you have found one already ;) The second one is just wrong. The shopkeeper can refuse to accept pennies once you get above 20p. But given shops have to pay for getting change from the bank, you'd struggle to find one that would choose not to take as many pennies as they can. The first is never going to stop every suicide. But just by stopping people buying 100 paracetamol at once it is going to mean some potential paracetamol overdosers are made to try a bit harder/haven't got the means to carry out an immediate suicide. I don't thing many people have a pressing need for 100 paracetamol by contrast. Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: AndrewT on June 13, 2012, 09:53:25 AM Yeah, the paracetemol one is simply that in going from chemist 1 to chemist 2, the potential suicidee's desire for a vodkacetemol cocktail passes.
With pennies, I actually noticed yesterday that I get far less bronze coins in change these days (as measured by the coins I take out of my pocket in the evening and don't pick up again the next morning). Have prices of things changed without my really noticing that things are not .99 any more, but more .95, and prices in general are rounded to the nearest 5p rather than 1p? Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: Doobs on June 13, 2012, 11:09:55 AM Yeah, the paracetemol one is simply that in going from chemist 1 to chemist 2, the potential suicidee's desire for a vodkacetemol cocktail passes. With pennies, I actually noticed yesterday that I get far less bronze coins in change these days (as measured by the coins I take out of my pocket in the evening and don't pick up again the next morning). Have prices of things changed without my really noticing that things are not .99 any more, but more .95, and prices in general are rounded to the nearest 5p rather than 1p? At the risk of becoming known as a tikay clone, I was reading the other day that £1 is the new 99p. Supermarkets are now allegedly pricing more items at exactly one pound in response to the competition from £1 shops. I also noticed in some cafe/bar or other as i was getting rid of my change that everything ended in 5p or 10p. Guess he wouldn't have been as grateful for all the coppers as I used to be when I worked in a shop! Guess it is part an inflation thing too. Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: DungBeetle on June 13, 2012, 01:34:56 PM The 99p idea was to make sure staff couldn't steal takings so easily. If you sell at 99p you need to ring the till to get the 1p change out. Selling for £1 it is easier to just pocket the pound without using the till.
Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: MilkShake on June 13, 2012, 03:16:48 PM It is Illegal to die in the houses of parliament.
Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: craigbetts on June 13, 2012, 05:14:16 PM It is Illegal to die in the houses of parliament. I randomly found this out today as I am heading there soonish. No food or drink can be consumed in the houses of parliament, exception is the Chancellor may have an alcoholic beverage whilst delivering the budget. Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: leethefish on June 13, 2012, 06:42:33 PM It is Illegal to die in the houses of parliament. Welcome to blonde Dominic ;welcome; Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: BangBang on June 13, 2012, 06:56:43 PM Just googled stupid Laws and found this one...
In Indonesia, the penalty for masturbation is decapitation Blondes do not visit Indonesia and log onto Amatays fit older women thread... Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: Jon MW on June 13, 2012, 07:32:06 PM It is Illegal to die in the houses of parliament. I randomly found this out today as I am heading there soonish. No food or drink can be consumed in the houses of parliament, exception is the Chancellor may have an alcoholic beverage whilst delivering the budget. I think that's the floor of the Commons rather than the Houses of Parliament but close enough Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: treefella on June 13, 2012, 07:44:28 PM 'No Fishing'
Just hate this one. How can anyone own a river ffs Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: BorntoBubble on June 13, 2012, 08:32:35 PM similar to the paracetamol one aaron i saw a sainburys refuse to sell tinfoil once... It was 10pm on a friday night this poor girl refused to sell this guy tin foil for his "cake" no back up from security this ..... obvious druggy was going psyco at her poor girl i thought it was wrong for her to be left in that position!
Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: smashedagain on June 13, 2012, 08:56:37 PM 'No Fishing' can't fish this Friday but can on Saturday the glorious 16thJust hate this one. How can anyone own a river ffs Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: tikay on June 13, 2012, 09:10:17 PM " at the risk of becoming a tikay clone".......
Oi Doobsy, wtf? Good job you are a valued Client of mine....... Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: doubleup on June 13, 2012, 09:16:10 PM I think the point of the paracetamol limit is simply to lessen the chance of someone having a fatal dose amount in their house. Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: tikay on June 13, 2012, 09:23:03 PM I think the point of the paracetamol limit is simply to lessen the chance of someone having a fatal dose amount in their house. Exactly that. Perhaps not ideally framed, but well intended. Everything has a reason. Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: RED-DOG on June 13, 2012, 10:13:07 PM It's illegal to kick your granny while she's shaving.
Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: Karabiner on June 13, 2012, 10:33:05 PM I'm still a little confused about the "decapitation".
Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: leethefish on June 13, 2012, 10:55:16 PM It's illegal to kick your granny while she's shaving. Blimey good job no one was watching! Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: vegaslover on June 13, 2012, 11:37:26 PM I think the point of the paracetamol limit is simply to lessen the chance of someone having a fatal dose amount in their house. Exactly that. Perhaps not ideally framed, but well intended. Everything has a reason. Exactly this. More than well intended it has significantly reduced suicide via paracetamol overdose since its introduction Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: Cf on June 14, 2012, 12:12:03 AM Apparently i'm not allowed to brutally murder people who get on my nerves.
What's that all about? :/ Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: BorntoBubble on June 14, 2012, 12:41:29 AM Apparently i'm not allowed to brutally murder people who get on my nerves. What's that all about? :/ When did this law get passed?!? What a joke they will let any old laws through nowadays!! Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: redsimon on June 14, 2012, 06:34:52 AM I think the point of the paracetamol limit is simply to lessen the chance of someone having a fatal dose amount in their house. I get 200 paracetamol per prescription from my GP. I tried overdosing on them but fely better after taking two :) Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: tikay on June 14, 2012, 07:38:00 AM I think the point of the paracetamol limit is simply to lessen the chance of someone having a fatal dose amount in their house. Exactly that. Perhaps not ideally framed, but well intended. Everything has a reason. Exactly this. More than well intended it has significantly reduced suicide via paracetamol overdose since its introduction Yup. It is easy to just say things are "stupid", but eveything is done for a reason, & sometimes it's worth investing a little thought into the "I wonder why?" area. To be fair, when I was a young man, I thought knew everything, & may well have expressed a similar view. I get shoals of communications saying we do stuff ridiculously badly, "stupidly" or whatever, next door. And I guess we do sometimes, like the complainers, we ain't perfect. One wrote & called me a "complete moron" (thanks mate), because we had "Happy Hour" promotion (double cash for points sort of thing) at the wrong hours of the day. I wrote & asked him how he came to that conclusion, & I confess I did so a little tongue in cheek. He replied - "cos u do it wen the sight is at it's quitest". I did not have the heart to explain the teeny weeny flaw in his thought process. I do think it is too easy just to say things are "stupid", negativity is so much easier than putting a positive spin on things. I also think that maybe I should not post such contrary views early in the morning, when my grumpy-meter is set to max. I'll get me coat. Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: MilkShake on June 14, 2012, 11:00:38 AM It is Illegal to die in the houses of parliament. I randomly found this out today as I am heading there soonish. No food or drink can be consumed in the houses of parliament, exception is the Chancellor may have an alcoholic beverage whilst delivering the budget. I have absolutely no idea why that law ever came into place. Anybody know? Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: Jon MW on June 14, 2012, 11:08:24 AM "anyone who dies in Parliament is technically entitled to a state funeral and the law is in place to ensure this does not happen.
However, a spokesman for the House of Commons said: "The people who know about these things here say there is no basis for such a law, not to say it does not exist somewhere in writing."" so it probably doesn't actually exist - but if it does that's the reason Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: doubleup on June 14, 2012, 03:04:25 PM Here is a stupid lawmaker proposing a stupid law http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18434112 Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: RED-DOG on June 14, 2012, 07:45:59 PM Here is a stupid lawmaker proposing a stupid law http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18434112 I thought our internet use was monitored already. You know, the fight against terrorism / drugs / espionage / treason etc... No? Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: BorntoBubble on June 14, 2012, 07:51:29 PM Here is a stupid lawmaker proposing a stupid law http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18434112 I thought our internet use was monitored already. You know, the fight against terrorism / drugs / espionage / treason etc... No? i was under the same impression also that certain phrases or sentances were monitored! mabye someone who knows a bit more about this could ellaborate!!! Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: Jon MW on June 14, 2012, 08:10:25 PM Here is a stupid lawmaker proposing a stupid law http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18434112 I thought our internet use was monitored already. You know, the fight against terrorism / drugs / espionage / treason etc... No? i was under the same impression also that certain phrases or sentances were monitored! mabye someone who knows a bit more about this could ellaborate!!! It was a bit more complex than that but that's pretty much the system that was used for telecommunications pre-internet. It's a reasonable assumption that it was extended to the internet. The difference is that the quantity of electronic communication that's available now is gigantically bigger than it was pre-internet - also there are a lot of channels that are encrypted, and de-crypting and monitoring would push the processing 'cost' even higher; and some encryption isn't really hackable in real team. All in all there's probably too much to use the same system. I would guess that they probably use the same system of monitoring that they were starting to use when encryption over the net and other telecommunications systems were starting to get really hard, which is more to look at the flow of data to look for suspicious points then target the more sophisticated processing once they find areas which are more likely to yield results. Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: leethefish on June 14, 2012, 08:16:40 PM Here is a stupid lawmaker proposing a stupid law http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18434112 I thought our internet use was monitored already. You know, the fight against terrorism / drugs / espionage / treason etc... No? i was under the same impression also that certain phrases or sentances were monitored! mabye someone who knows a bit more about this could ellaborate!!! It was a bit more complex than that but that's pretty much the system that was used for telecommunications pre-internet. It's a reasonable assumption that it was extended to the internet. The difference is that the quantity of electronic communication that's available now is gigantically bigger than it was pre-internet - also there are a lot of channels that are encrypted, and de-crypting and monitoring would push the processing 'cost' even higher; and some encryption isn't really hackable in real team. All in all there's probably too much to use the same system. I would guess that they probably use the same system of monitoring that they were starting to use when encryption over the net and other telecommunications systems were starting to get really hard, which is more to look at the flow of data to look for suspicious points then target the more sophisticated processing once they find areas which are more likely to yield results. on flight 999 (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/war/airplane.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/aeroplane-emoticon-483.html) there is a big (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/war/bomb.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/bomb-emoticon-461.html) Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: RED-DOG on June 14, 2012, 08:24:51 PM Here is a stupid lawmaker proposing a stupid law http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18434112 I thought our internet use was monitored already. You know, the fight against terrorism / drugs / espionage / treason etc... No? i was under the same impression also that certain phrases or sentances were monitored! mabye someone who knows a bit more about this could ellaborate!!! It was a bit more complex than that but that's pretty much the system that was used for telecommunications pre-internet. It's a reasonable assumption that it was extended to the internet. The difference is that the quantity of electronic communication that's available now is gigantically bigger than it was pre-internet - also there are a lot of channels that are encrypted, and de-crypting and monitoring would push the processing 'cost' even higher; and some encryption isn't really hackable in real team. All in all there's probably too much to use the same system. I would guess that they probably use the same system of monitoring that they were starting to use when encryption over the net and other telecommunications systems were starting to get really hard, which is more to look at the flow of data to look for suspicious points then target the more sophisticated processing once they find areas which are more likely to yield results. Can you dumb your answer down a bit Jon. Are they motoring the average Joe or not. Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: leethefish on June 14, 2012, 08:27:58 PM Here is a stupid lawmaker proposing a stupid law http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18434112 I thought our internet use was monitored already. You know, the fight against terrorism / drugs / espionage / treason etc... No? i was under the same impression also that certain phrases or sentances were monitored! mabye someone who knows a bit more about this could ellaborate!!! It was a bit more complex than that but that's pretty much the system that was used for telecommunications pre-internet. It's a reasonable assumption that it was extended to the internet. The difference is that the quantity of electronic communication that's available now is gigantically bigger than it was pre-internet - also there are a lot of channels that are encrypted, and de-crypting and monitoring would push the processing 'cost' even higher; and some encryption isn't really hackable in real team. All in all there's probably too much to use the same system. I would guess that they probably use the same system of monitoring that they were starting to use when encryption over the net and other telecommunications systems were starting to get really hard, which is more to look at the flow of data to look for suspicious points then target the more sophisticated processing once they find areas which are more likely to yield results. Can you dumb your answer down a bit Jon. Are they motoring the average Joe or not. as far as i am aware w e are all monitored by key words such as my last post! (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/war/bomb.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/bomb-emoticon-461.html) being one of them although i suspect its a lot more sophisticated these days. Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: Jon MW on June 14, 2012, 08:37:10 PM Here is a stupid lawmaker proposing a stupid law http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18434112 I thought our internet use was monitored already. You know, the fight against terrorism / drugs / espionage / treason etc... No? i was under the same impression also that certain phrases or sentances were monitored! mabye someone who knows a bit more about this could ellaborate!!! It was a bit more complex than that but that's pretty much the system that was used for telecommunications pre-internet. It's a reasonable assumption that it was extended to the internet. The difference is that the quantity of electronic communication that's available now is gigantically bigger than it was pre-internet - also there are a lot of channels that are encrypted, and de-crypting and monitoring would push the processing 'cost' even higher; and some encryption isn't really hackable in real team. All in all there's probably too much to use the same system. I would guess that they probably use the same system of monitoring that they were starting to use when encryption over the net and other telecommunications systems were starting to get really hard, which is more to look at the flow of data to look for suspicious points then target the more sophisticated processing once they find areas which are more likely to yield results. Can you dumb your answer down a bit Jon. Are they motoring the average Joe or not. probably not because I don't think even the Americans have the capacity. But if their NSA has been given enough money then they might do - but nobody looks at the data until it's suspicious even if they do - it's all analysed by computer programmes. From Wiki Transaction data mining NSA is reported to use its computing capability to analyze "transactional" data that it regularly acquires from other government agencies, which gather it under their own jurisdictional authorities. As part of this effort, NSA now monitors huge volumes of records of domestic emails and Internet searches as well as bank transfers, credit-card transactions and travel and telephone records, according to current and former intelligence officials interviewed by the Wall Street Journal This is the analysis they do - if they have the money they will also be doing it for international data. GCHQ is our version and they have less money and less computers, but that's also what they do - all the NATO countries share their data anyway. Title: Re: Stupid Laws in the UK Post by: Redsgirl on June 17, 2012, 09:32:22 PM Here is a stupid lawmaker proposing a stupid law http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18434112 I thought our internet use was monitored already. You know, the fight against terrorism / drugs / espionage / treason etc... No? i was under the same impression also that certain phrases or sentances were monitored! mabye someone who knows a bit more about this could ellaborate!!! It was a bit more complex than that but that's pretty much the system that was used for telecommunications pre-internet. It's a reasonable assumption that it was extended to the internet. The difference is that the quantity of electronic communication that's available now is gigantically bigger than it was pre-internet - also there are a lot of channels that are encrypted, and de-crypting and monitoring would push the processing 'cost' even higher; and some encryption isn't really hackable in real team. All in all there's probably too much to use the same system. I would guess that they probably use the same system of monitoring that they were starting to use when encryption over the net and other telecommunications systems were starting to get really hard, which is more to look at the flow of data to look for suspicious points then target the more sophisticated processing once they find areas which are more likely to yield results. Can you dumb your answer down a bit Jon. Are they motoring the average Joe or not. as far as i am aware w e are all monitored by key words such as my last post! (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/war/bomb.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/bomb-emoticon-461.html) being one of them although i suspect its a lot more sophisticated these days. |