Title: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: Young_gun on June 17, 2012, 12:09:05 AM Hi all,
Been lurking here for a while mainly stake threads i find interesting, Also a skypokerette About 23 runners, 25k starting stack, yoyo'd first 2 and half hours been active, moved tables then was in shove mode 15-16 k @ 600/1200. Shoved 5 times in about 3 orbits, 7 handed, also shoved a couple of hands ago with K7o after 4 limps @1000/2000 stack up to 30k only showwdown was AQ v AQ split UTG +1, i have 30k, bare in mind i have been shoving as not much room to move i see Ac Tc... Also people have showed a couple times them folding KQ and other hands that were crushing me, i have 15 bigs so not ideal to shove bit much I shall post after a few replies or tomorrow what i have done, standard is pretty poor in these tourneys i usually get a stack but ran bad at table draws getting a massive fish to my left who i couldnt play pots with :( Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: Longy on June 17, 2012, 12:23:04 AM Are there antes? I would shove if there is.
If not I would min raise as a default. Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: Young_gun on June 17, 2012, 12:27:18 AM Sorry i didnt put in OP, No antes
also assuming tourney avg like 45kish 13 left Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: the rage on June 17, 2012, 01:40:27 AM I would say that is very much dependent on opponents tendencies. Your comments suggest that they are generally pretty tight. I think quite often a raise will do the same as a shove. Ie-It will usually get through, but you will be flipping or, more likely, in bad shape if you get jammed on. So, it's a raise / fold for me.
Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: pleno1 on June 17, 2012, 01:42:39 AM 2600
Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: Young_gun on June 17, 2012, 01:46:33 AM Thanks for comments so far ppl
I would say their calling range is pretty tight in this spot, where as when someone does a min bet everyone seems to peel, too me my thoughts are shove or fold, obv i shoved and not really sure its that great in this spot. For the record was top 4 pay, so i really needed DU so i can start playing properly again. I play pretty LAG wiv chips and TAG with not many to play with Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: Young_gun on June 17, 2012, 01:49:20 AM 2600 This is what i would raise normally in this spot, although this table had tendancies for alot of calls, are you raise/calling or raise folding with 15bigs, or i suppose thats based on the villains shoving range tendanciesSorta convinced myself why there that shove was standard but now leaning to fold :( did contemplate raise/call or fold but 15 bigs dont like raise folding Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: pleno1 on June 17, 2012, 02:00:03 AM I'd just remind yourself that it is a live tournament with 23 runners and it is v v unlikely anybody is going to exploit you or shove on you wide so not wanting to r/f should have less of a consideration than it would online.
Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: Young_gun on June 17, 2012, 12:25:32 PM Valid point really, doubt anyone good enough on table to exploit me here, But i do cry a bit here when i get called by 3 players etc or are you happy to do this and aim to shove on some boards, check/fold on others? Or will you just shove alot of flops?
Usually dont get any marginal situations, but this one wasn't sure as i have a reshove stack but EP.... Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: dakky on June 18, 2012, 04:23:04 PM 2600 This is what i would raise normally in this spot, although this table had tendancies for alot of calls, are you raise/calling or raise folding with 15bigs, or i suppose thats based on the villains shoving range tendanciesSorta convinced myself why there that shove was standard but now leaning to fold :( did contemplate raise/call or fold but 15 bigs dont like raise folding Aren't blinds 1k/2k? I jam either way Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: MC on June 18, 2012, 05:30:25 PM Yeah just min raise open.
Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: Young_gun on June 18, 2012, 11:35:23 PM 2600 This is what i would raise normally in this spot, although this table had tendancies for alot of calls, are you raise/calling or raise folding with 15bigs, or i suppose thats based on the villains shoving range tendanciesSorta convinced myself why there that shove was standard but now leaning to fold :( did contemplate raise/call or fold but 15 bigs dont like raise folding Aren't blinds 1k/2k? I jam either way Flop saw 10 and another 10 :D turn Jack sigh lol (not results orientated discussions just genuine wasn't sure as only time been like this in a live scenario and been like 20 times now) Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: Young_gun on June 18, 2012, 11:37:05 PM Yeah just min raise open. Can understand this being the general line and one i would usually take but my recent history on the table, are you min calling? also if you have 1,2 or a few callers are you shoving any flop as whats in the middle is too good or is it board dependant? Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: dakky on June 19, 2012, 04:28:01 PM 2600 This is what i would raise normally in this spot, although this table had tendancies for alot of calls, are you raise/calling or raise folding with 15bigs, or i suppose thats based on the villains shoving range tendanciesSorta convinced myself why there that shove was standard but now leaning to fold :( did contemplate raise/call or fold but 15 bigs dont like raise folding Aren't blinds 1k/2k? I jam either way Flop saw 10 and another 10 :D turn Jack sigh lol (not results orientated discussions just genuine wasn't sure as only time been like this in a live scenario and been like 20 times now) you can get hands that should fold and might 3b jam to fold tho Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: Magic817 on June 20, 2012, 08:20:18 PM Young gun - You will know me as Matt Bates from skypoker...am also a relative newbie to blonde.
I agree with not shoving as against their calling ranges you aren't going to be in a great spot and you have enough to go through the blinds to get into a better spot. I would rather go through the blinds and then shove into an unopened pot from late position with any 2 or given there are no antes wait for a decent hand until you get to say 10bb. Given what you say about the table multi calling although I don't love saying it I might even fold pre. If you had a couple more bb say 18-20 then a 2 or 2.5x raise depending on what you have been doing as standard would be the best option. Going to a flop say 4 way out of position with A10 suited isn't going to be great which is why I am thinking fold. Matt Title: Re: Live Exit hand £35 Megastack turbo, standard or bad Post by: Young_gun on June 21, 2012, 01:47:42 PM Yep i agree there matt. know more from twitter :-) thanks alk i did thibj i made a bad move and didnt want to gloss over it and say was unlucky lol
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