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PokerStars Hand #82077027643: Tournament #570460115, $100.00+$7.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (40/80) - 2012/06/17 16:39:14 WET [2012/06/17 11:39:14 ET]
Table '570460115 546' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: xzone23 (9320 in chips)
Seat 2: Ziggy014 (7835 in chips)
Seat 3: Søren Smith (10174 in chips)
Seat 4: buzcaky (9886 in chips)
Seat 5: G.TOHME (9396 in chips)
Seat 6: trioplast (9849 in chips)
Seat 7: xgiovannix (14219 in chips)
Seat 8: KuzMich_pro (7710 in chips)
Seat 9: Jamie_Kay0 (11551 in chips)
G.TOHME: posts small blind 40
trioplast: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jamie_Kay0 [Qh Qd]
xgiovannix: folds
KuzMich_pro: folds
Jamie_Kay0: raises 80 to 160
xzone23: calls 160
Ziggy014: folds
Søren Smith: raises 380 to 540
buzcaky: folds
G.TOHME: folds
trioplast: folds
Jamie_Kay0: ???

Early in the WU. Hero has been active, made a few 3bs and got them through. Havent shown down a hand yet. Villain is a decent winner at $27 ave buyin.

Villain has 3b peeled twice earlier vs other oppos. What do we think to our options and why?

cal, play a pot, when you say 3b peeled do you mean 3bet and then called a 4bet? what did he show up with? isnt 40/80 level 2?

min raise is too small pre as well

Why is your face purple?

Yeah 3b/peeled 4b. He didnt get to showdown in those pots, 1 he folded flop and second went ch/ch b/f.

40/80 is level 3

Not reraising him - is he just agressive pre (although only 2 hands)?
Also 2.2 pre (2.5 nobody notice?)

Just 4bet then doesn't seem close?

What are you then doing vs a 5b? He may be a little peel happy but I dont think hes ever getting massively OOL and committing suicide with JJ-/AQ-.

Chances are if we 4b he'll peel and we play a pot with a strong hand and a nice amount in the middle.

This feels like the nut line, but doing so means we should be 4b folding right? Which just feels dirty

if a guy is peeling 4bets and randomly playing terrible and decides to 3bet and then 5bet and very best of luck to him if he has kk+ vs 99% of people i wouldnt 4b/6b but vs him it seems totally fine.

Pretty sure when you 4 bet you look ridiculously strong. My standard line is to flat most hands here, 4 bet KJ or something if I'm feeling a bit excitable!!

the guy has peeled 2 4bets in first 2 levels tho mate?

prob had a decent hand both times, 4 bet if you want but 2 hands isn't really a sample or dynamic this early

I'm with rupert here, I've played with siren smith a lot and he plays decent. He is pretty aggro though so I think peeling is by far the best option; keep his bluffs in, let him value cut himself with JJ/TT and keep our percieved range as wide and as weak as possible.

He prob views JK as weaker in comparison to his view of you pleno making 4/5/6/7betting worse here. Plus we keep the peel in.

I 3x pre at this stage, i think min isn't great. (edit: presumably making 2.5x correct?)

Yeah missed that, 160 is too small 200-240 is much better

Cheers for the comments guys. Agree, in hindsight, that I should probably be peeling. As I have no history with him and Im just a $5 average BI grinder (or something like that), peeling is probably more optimal with our good hands as he expects us to just get them in.

Think I was just a bit worried about getting owned post/playing a flop OOP because im a pussy :D

We should be 3x ing in levels 1-3 while we're still 100bbs deep.

Not 4betting, and not folding, thus peeling becomes the line by default.

I think you gave these guys too much credit, the million and wu yesterday were softer than the 33r and 55s I played by someway.

Obv the standard play is to peel and check call one. From a game theory point of view this is probably optimal. However, I would fold pre to this guy (who is a reg). In my experience a solid reg has you beat nearly always.

Yeh when Sammy 3 bets (reg) fold QQ or worse.

SamSquid sure has ever folded QQ pre.