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Title: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: Rickie Belfield on June 18, 2012, 01:33:19 PM
Hey guys, this happened to me last night at Gala Leicester and I was wondering whether or not I could have made a different move.

Format:

  • £30 MTT with 1 rebuy or 1 add on.


Stack size and blinds information:

  • We were in level 3 and the blinds were 200-400
  • I was sitting in MP2 with ~18,000
  • Dom was sitting in CO and had ~2000
  • Spencer was sitting in the BB and had ~25,000

Relevant player information:

  • Spencer is known for being really aggressive. I've saw him make huge shoves at small levels with hands like AJ to small suited connectors. He usually plays the hands at the top of his range more calmly than he does others.
  • Dom is at the top of the league leaderboard by a good amount of points. So far, I've not tangled with him much but with his stack size in this pot I'm not at all concerned.
Action:

  • Action folds round to me. Hero in MP2 looks down at  Qc Qs and bets 1000. Dom in the CO shoves his remaining ~2000. BU and SB folds. BB shoves for ~25,000. HERO?


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: outragous76 on June 18, 2012, 01:38:22 PM
Snap call, high five everyone in the room and holddddddddddddddddddddddddd


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: WPIL on June 18, 2012, 01:46:50 PM
Hollywood for a Minute or Two then call and hold


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: millidonk on June 18, 2012, 02:03:47 PM
Don't hollywood when their chips are already in the middle! Just get yours in amongst them.


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: BulldozerD on June 18, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
I might even chuck the car keys in as well


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: Rickie Belfield on June 18, 2012, 02:15:02 PM
Snap call, high five everyone in the room and holddddddddddddddddddddddddd

Haha. This is the first post on here which has actually made me laugh. :P Any thought process as to why?


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: Cf on June 18, 2012, 02:18:21 PM
Snap call, high five everyone in the room and holddddddddddddddddddddddddd

Haha. This is the first post on here which has actually made me laugh. :P Any thought process as to why?

Because we have QQ.

And you describe the player as shoving hands such as AJ and suited connectors, but slows down a bit with the good hands. He's just shoved his stack in. It'd be rude not to do the same.


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: outragous76 on June 18, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
Snap call, high five everyone in the room and holddddddddddddddddddddddddd

Haha. This is the first post on here which has actually made me laugh. :P Any thought process as to why?

Well Im hoping one of the reasons you made it 1k (or less) pre was incase the shorty jams his 2k in (making sure the betting isnt capped from behind - ie giving you the option to re raise any call/raise behind).

The guy (jammer) is the most aggro on the table. He is never jamming the lot with AA or KK, and may well spazz out with 99-JJ. Big suited aces form a big part of his range (AK AQ etc).

So on the grounds there is no hand in his range which beats you,  one hand you are flipping against, and the rest you crush, there is absolutely no reason to keep your chips out!


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: Rickie Belfield on June 18, 2012, 02:33:09 PM
Well Im hoping one of the reasons you made it 1k (or less) pre was incase the shorty jams his 2k in (making sure the betting isnt capped from behind - ie giving you the option to re raise any call/raise behind).

The guy (jammer) is the most aggro on the table. He is never jamming the lot with AA or KK, and may well spazz out with 99-JJ. Big suited aces form a big part of his range (AK AQ etc).

So on the grounds there is no hand in his range which beats you,  one hand you are flipping against, and the rest you crush, there is absolutely no reason to keep your chips out!


Yep, that's bang on. That is pretty much exactly what went through my head.

Just out of curiosity, what's a reasonable amount to be betting with pre-flop at this blind level? I thought 1000 was pretty standard.


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: AndrewT on June 18, 2012, 03:00:31 PM
1000 is a fine amount to raise generally here - the point is you don't want to raise to 1400 or something, have the shorty jam and get 3 callers, forcing you to see a 5 way flop with QQ.

I'm assuming you called with your QQ and won a nice big pot?


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: muckthenuts on June 18, 2012, 03:10:05 PM

I'm assuming you called with your QQ and won a nice big pot?

Pretty sure if this was the case that this thread would never exist :P


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: Rickie Belfield on June 18, 2012, 03:25:26 PM
1000 is a fine amount to raise generally here - the point is you don't want to raise to 1400 or something, have the shorty jam and get 3 callers, forcing you to see a 5 way flop with QQ.

I'm assuming you called with your QQ and won a nice big pot?

Didn't really want to post results (mainly because it makes no difference as to whether the play was right or not) but he showed JJ and spiked a J. Good job I didn't high five everyone though! Haha.


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: rfgqqabc on June 18, 2012, 05:37:06 PM
Tough because you pulled a muscle beating him into the pot? I think tens+ and ace king plus are My calling range here

Edit: AQ is prob a bad call, too deep


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: Mcbucket91 on June 20, 2012, 04:45:07 PM
Tough because you pulled a muscle beating him into the pot? I think tens+ and ace queen plus are My calling range hero

This!


Title: Re: [LIVE] QQ - tough spot
Post by: chatban on June 26, 2012, 10:18:51 PM
I spencer is the same spencer from two years ago, this is a snap call.