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Title: worst we jam?
Post by: pleno1 on June 28, 2012, 10:24:53 PM
100e comp on .fr, so so lol
squuezer is like this super aggro donk guy squeezing and 3betting every other hand. first guy is big whale and second guy is calling alo


Table '577769185 26' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: pleno1 (17006 in chips)
Seat 3: willy85160 (50645 in chips)
Seat 4: Caribbean'13 (31037 in chips)
Seat 5: jeanlouis77 (7978 in chips)
Seat 6: tigresse55 (27151 in chips)
Seat 7: jolekalif (10678 in chips)
Seat 8: mespa17 (21409 in chips)
Seat 9: charlyblind (22563 in chips)
pleno1: posts the ante 60
willy85160: posts the ante 60
Caribbean'13: posts the ante 60
jeanlouis77: posts the ante 60
tigresse55: posts the ante 60
jolekalif: posts the ante 60
mespa17: posts the ante 60
charlyblind: posts the ante 60
pleno1: posts small blind 250
willy85160: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pleno1 [x x]
Caribbean'13: folds
jeanlouis77: folds
tigresse55: folds
jolekalif: raises 1000 to 1500
mespa17: calls 1500
charlyblind: raises 3750 to 5250
pleno1:


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: dreenie on June 28, 2012, 10:38:26 PM
100e comp on .fr, so so lol
squuezer is like this super aggro donk guy squeezing and 3betting every other hand. first guy is big whale and second guy is calling alo


Table '577769185 26' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: pleno1 (17006 in chips)
Seat 3: willy85160 (50645 in chips)
Seat 4: Caribbean'13 (31037 in chips)
Seat 5: jeanlouis77 (7978 in chips)
Seat 6: tigresse55 (27151 in chips)
Seat 7: jolekalif (10678 in chips)
Seat 8: mespa17 (21409 in chips)
Seat 9: charlyblind (22563 in chips)
pleno1: posts the ante 60
willy85160: posts the ante 60
Caribbean'13: posts the ante 60
jeanlouis77: posts the ante 60
tigresse55: posts the ante 60
jolekalif: posts the ante 60
mespa17: posts the ante 60
charlyblind: posts the ante 60
pleno1: posts small blind 250
willy85160: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pleno1 [x x]
Caribbean'13: folds
jeanlouis77: folds
tigresse55: folds
jolekalif: raises 1000 to 1500
mespa17: calls 1500
charlyblind: raises 3750 to 5250
pleno1:

What have you got?


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: outragous76 on June 28, 2012, 10:39:46 PM
TT+ and AQ+ ?


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: outragous76 on June 28, 2012, 10:51:17 PM
More I think you could prob get as low as 77 88 and aj.

We are only going to get fucked by the original raiser, and therefore if you say well if we are beat we are beat, then the squeezers range is all that counts (and his calling range obv)


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 28, 2012, 10:54:00 PM
With the reads you said, any pair, AT+, A7ss+, KJo+ sort of thing.


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: pleno1 on June 28, 2012, 10:55:57 PM
any pair as in 22+?


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: rfgqqabc on June 28, 2012, 11:47:00 PM
any pair as in 22+?

no real diff between 22 and 66. I'd be jamming pretty wide, depends on whale tho, if hes never folding AJs, prob jam a bit tighter. If its so joke soft, no need to bust, altho flipping for stacks is kinda sweet when you look at ev of time


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: outragous76 on June 28, 2012, 11:50:55 PM
any pair as in 22+?

no real diff between 22 and 66. I'd be jamming pretty wide, depends on whale tho, if hes never folding AJs, prob jam a bit tighter. If its so joke soft, no need to bust, altho flipping for stacks is kinda sweet when you look at ev of time

There is a huge difference of <66 pairs against spazzy Russians imo


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: pleno1 on June 28, 2012, 11:55:17 PM
squeezer never folding to my jam obv, hes getting like 2.5x/1, first guy  can r/f a bunch tho lol.


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: rfgqqabc on June 29, 2012, 12:05:11 AM
any pair as in 22+?

no real diff between 22 and 66. I'd be jamming pretty wide, depends on whale tho, if hes never folding AJs, prob jam a bit tighter. If its so joke soft, no need to bust, altho flipping for stacks is kinda sweet when you look at ev of time

There is a huge difference of <66 pairs against spazzy Russians imo

I meant does the whale lol call with KJs or not? Expectations of 3ber if it gets flatted? We can jam super wide here cos of all dead money, esp if whale folds a lot and 3ber is that aggro, guess get stove out :/


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: parker on June 29, 2012, 12:09:55 AM
isnt the optimal play against players you have an insane edge over to play them post flop?


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: pleno1 on June 29, 2012, 12:29:19 AM
Well we can't play post flop giving the action but it could determine is to shove a tighter range.


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: parker on June 29, 2012, 12:33:44 AM
sorry mate i rushed that. what i ment was is it not more profitable to wait for better spots, where you can play post flop.


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: TL900 on June 29, 2012, 04:40:41 AM
when hes always calling i wana have a pretty tightish range, prob 88+ AQ+ AJs+ KQs+ i like.

Edit : Also, u dont need to take these high variance spots on .fr imo so i prob shove even tighter than that prob


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 29, 2012, 04:46:02 AM
oh i didnt see stack sizes of squeezer. that changes things


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: TL900 on June 29, 2012, 04:55:58 AM
oh i didnt see stack sizes of squeezer. that changes things

:)


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: smashedagain on June 29, 2012, 07:27:43 AM
100e comp on .fr, so so lol
squuezer is like this super aggro donk guy squeezing and 3betting every other hand. first guy is big whale and second guy is calling alo


Table '577769185 26' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: pleno1 (17006 in chips)
Seat 3: willy85160 (50645 in chips)
Seat 4: Caribbean'13 (31037 in chips)
Seat 5: jeanlouis77 (7978 in chips)
Seat 6: tigresse55 (27151 in chips)
Seat 7: jolekalif (10678 in chips)
Seat 8: mespa17 (21409 in chips)
Seat 9: charlyblind (22563 in chips)
pleno1: posts the ante 60
willy85160: posts the ante 60
Caribbean'13: posts the ante 60
jeanlouis77: posts the ante 60
tigresse55: posts the ante 60
jolekalif: posts the ante 60
mespa17: posts the ante 60
charlyblind: posts the ante 60
pleno1: posts small blind 250
willy85160: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pleno1 [x x]
Caribbean'13: folds
jeanlouis77: folds
tigresse55: folds
jolekalif: raises 1000 to 1500
mespa17: calls 1500
charlyblind: raises 3750 to 5250
pleno1:

What have you got?
Very bad breath and colourful language :)


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: the rage on June 29, 2012, 08:12:58 AM
I'm going to go for.....shove it up your arse


Title: Re: worst we jam?
Post by: outragous76 on June 29, 2012, 01:54:56 PM
whats your thoughts on this BITB