Title: Big 33- Turn 2pair and get minraised Post by: rfgqqabc on July 04, 2012, 11:39:21 AM No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars 8 Players Hand Conversion Powered by http://weaktight.com/ $30+$3 Stacks: UTG Jiminik9 2,340 59bb UTG+1 belloss13 3,000 75bb MP1 KP001 2,695 67bb MP2 TakeRisks 5,500 138bb CO simonMV999 3,580 90bb BTN Omoschan90 4,260 107bb SB vovan123456 4,550 114bb BB CarlisleUtd8 1,620 41bb Blinds: 20/40 Pre-Flop: (60, 8 players) TakeRisks is MP2 Ks Qd 3 folds, TakeRisks raises to 120, simonMV999 calls 120, 3 folds Flop: Js Kc 5s (300, 2 players) TakeRisks bets 120, simonMV999 calls 120 Turn: Qh (540, 2 players) TakeRisks bets 400, simonMV999 raises to 800 What would you do and why? 6 hands in and pretty much readless. He is blocked from search and pretty much insta raised Title: Re: Big 33- Turn 2pair and get minraised Post by: the rage on July 04, 2012, 02:28:30 PM Personally, i would elect to call the raise. Villian may well have a straight, but he could also have a flush draw, say Aspades 9s and is raising to try and semi bluff you off it. You have four outs to the full house, with good implied odds if you do happen to hit it.
I would then probably check / call the river, unless a spade lands, which would make me more likely to fold to a big bet. I would probably go for a check raise if we hit the full house, because i think that villian will probably bet again with or without a hand. Title: Re: Big 33- Turn 2pair and get minraised Post by: the rage on July 04, 2012, 04:17:05 PM just having a stab by the way. Not really got much idea about these spots. Would villian really raise so small with a straight here?
not so sure. still think a semi-bluff more likely Title: Re: Big 33- Turn 2pair and get minraised Post by: outragous76 on July 04, 2012, 07:07:55 PM Never folding here
I mean he has Kj as often as he has 55 . Peel and reassess Title: Re: Big 33- Turn 2pair and get minraised Post by: rfgqqabc on July 04, 2012, 08:02:14 PM Never folding here I mean he has Kj as often as he has 55 . Peel and reassess Basically my thoughts were jam or call/reassess I ended up calling and having to fold on a Ts river, but I wondered if jamming was better, much more 2pair/bluff combos than 55 so surely a jam is better ott right? Title: Re: Big 33- Turn 2pair and get minraised Post by: Pugwashed on July 04, 2012, 11:51:41 PM http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/simonMV999/poker/results/4989128168A548C58B2C7BCA2B8DCCBD.html?t=2
With OPR as my only read, I think I might fold. He's bluffing precisely 0% of the time and its pretty thin but from looking at an OPR like that I think there's a pretty good chance he's not raising KJ on the turn and raises the flop a huge % of the time with it anyway. Vs a complete random I might just go all in as you see them do all sorts of dumb stuff with just top pair and worse 2pairs but just looking at OPR I'd be suprised if that was the case with him Am I too much of a nit? Title: Re: Big 33- Turn 2pair and get minraised Post by: rfgqqabc on July 05, 2012, 01:38:10 AM http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/simonMV999/poker/results/4989128168A548C58B2C7BCA2B8DCCBD.html?t=2 With OPR as my only read, I think I might fold. He's bluffing precisely 0% of the time and its pretty thin but from looking at an OPR like that I think there's a pretty good chance he's not raising KJ on the turn and raises the flop a huge % of the time with it anyway. Vs a complete random I might just go all in as you see them do all sorts of dumb stuff with just top pair and worse 2pairs but just looking at OPR I'd be suprised if that was the case with him Am I too much of a nit? I'm 100% sure i was winning on the turn, especially after action in other hands. In fact, i busted him when i raise ATo, he flats, bb flats. Comes AcT9c and i cbet, he minraises, bb flats, i jam, he calls with AJ and bb has KTcc, and we hold. edit: thats clear aftertiming though, I think he had some really retarded shit here, but real tough spot in a vacuum Got to be very close between call/call and jam the turn though right? Title: Re: Big 33- Turn 2pair and get minraised Post by: muckthenuts on July 06, 2012, 12:45:57 AM http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/simonMV999/poker/results/4989128168A548C58B2C7BCA2B8DCCBD.html?t=2 With OPR as my only read, I think I might fold. He's bluffing precisely 0% of the time and its pretty thin but from looking at an OPR like that I think there's a pretty good chance he's not raising KJ on the turn and raises the flop a huge % of the time with it anyway. Vs a complete random I might just go all in as you see them do all sorts of dumb stuff with just top pair and worse 2pairs but just looking at OPR I'd be suprised if that was the case with him Am I too much of a nit? I'm with you on folding. Doesn't make any sense at all for him to raise with KJ/semi bluffs if he didn't raise the flop. |