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How can we possibly have this go to court?

I have just read that his maximum penalty is a £2,500 fine. For this we get 5 days in court? 5 days!!?!!?!?!?! How is that in the public interest? We pay to see this public circus, an for what, and pocket change fine? Is this some kind of joke?

The punitive (knock on) repercussions should be irrelevant in a decision as to whether this goes to trial. What public benefit is there in either outcome?

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If convicted i think the FA can fine a lit more + obviously ban him for a period of time. Disagree with it not being in the public's interest. Pretty sure unless Terry is the most misunderstood person in the world, he deserves some fairly hefty punishment.

The CPS shouldn't be making decisions on what the Fa might do

Pretty sure Terry opted for jury trial, normally dealt with in Magistrates Court. CPS had no say in that?

I think it will be the FA that decide what to do based on what the CPS do

This isn't some chavvy scroat throwing out mindless abuse in between bites of his kebab at 3am outside Cindy's nightclub. It's the former England football captain, the captain of the European Champions. The CPS, when deciding on public interest, will factor in the individual's public image - if they have one. Sometimes it's the conviction above the punishment.

If found guilty - not that this will be relevant to the CPS - JT will likely face a ban and his sponsorship packages will be looked at (is terry as marketable a brand, post racism conviction?).

Harry was hauled before the courts on what was at best sketchy evidence (whether he has done it doesn't matter; the defence tore the prosecution case to bits). Our criminal justice system is pretty good at making sure justice is both done and seen to be done.

Above all, it's John Terry and my feelings on him are far from pleasant. He has been a fine footballer but this won't be the last time he's in trouble.

If he is found guilty, he won't even get the Suarez wiggle room of "it's a cultural thing" and I hope people on the terraces and in the papers (and in the changing rooms) let him know how they feel.

Interesting logic...if you can afford to pay the fine and expensive lawyers to argue your case in court you think the CPS should not bother?

No, the logic is that we the tax payer are paying £xm to find out a bloke is a racist - great!

I actually think a high profile case like this will do a lot to encourage less prominent victims challenge racism.

If Terry is found guilty he will have to pay costs.

Cheers for that. Excellent tweeter that chap.

I feel it should of been dealt with by FA. This can only be not guilty in court. Total waste of everyone's time and when a not guilty verdict arrives it sends an unwanted message to all. Young players now being told its fine to call players c***s during a match but if he gets not guilty for uttering black c*** then it's game over for junior soccer referees.

I have witnessed some awful behaviour from parents at kids matches. They have little intellect and will see this as a green light to shout even more dross at their doting offspring.

not court costs he wont

Why not? He elected to be tried at crown.

This is not a Crown court trial with a jury, it's a Magistrates.

Oh sorry. My bad. I thought he had elected to go to crown.

does anybody think he could be innocent?

Yes. Not sure if I think he is or not as despite all the "Terry's a dick" stuff I've no idea how likely the bloke is to be a racist but certainly believe he could be innocent.

He's got very expensive lawyers so now doubt he will be found innocent.

They have already been earning their keep. Defence asked for case to be dismissed on basis that the evidence against him is flimsy. Both sides have excellent lawyers. As with poker, if you have equal players (lawyers), you're likely getting a fair case.

I expect, if found not guilty, he will appear in the dock in a Chelsea strip.

brilliant

Yep.

Not his biggest fan but really doubt he's some kind of race hate figure who should be in the dock.

Shock horror  - John Terry acquitted!

Millions down the drain and for what? An absolute joke!

Apparently it's ok to use racist terms as long as you convince people you are "not a racist" and then make them believe that it is possible "you didn't mean it like that"

Farce IMO.

His good name restored, John Terry is now celebrating by shagging his defence lawyer's girlfriend.

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The crown doesn't just take on cases it knows it will win! Has to be in the public interest etc (which I think this is) but AA are sometimes beaten by 72o. There are no guaranteed results in court.

Seems like this one wasn't evidentially strong but the issue of what can be said on the pitch is back in the minds of the players and players are reminded that they are not above the law.

The prosecutions only witness didn't hear him say anything!

This trial has done a lot more damage than good and that was obvious from the outset

Cost us millions! Great

Expect riots off the back of this. When it stops raining obv. :)

sure cost millions

ill give you odds - the extra policing alone probably ran into hundreds of thousands!

bill the off duty pig who complained and brought about the case...wp bill him the £1m costs.

You said it cost "us" millions. How much you want to bet? :)

Only opened this thread cos i was wondering who Terry Case is. feel pretty stupid right now lol

How do you know his name?

Judgement is pretty damning for a 'Not Guilty'