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Title: Sunday Mil Madness- KK QJ9 flop
Post by: rfgqqabc on July 15, 2012, 10:56:23 PM
http://weaktight.com/4848517

Fuck editing results out, obviously not loving it but really good price, didnt expect to see QQ/JJ too often. snap shove otf


Title: Re: Sunday Mil Madness- KK QJ9 flop
Post by: pleno1 on July 15, 2012, 10:57:42 PM
fold to flop donk. horrible board.


Title: Re: Sunday Mil Madness- KK QJ9 flop
Post by: cambridgealex on July 15, 2012, 10:58:08 PM
+1, or just call. raising is horrible


Title: Re: Sunday Mil Madness- KK QJ9 flop
Post by: rfgqqabc on July 15, 2012, 11:37:10 PM
Gah, out of all the tournies I've played today, every single tough spot has been in the Mil. Really didn't know what to do here, but it felt bad @ the time


Title: Re: Sunday Mil Madness- KK QJ9 flop
Post by: prettygreen on July 15, 2012, 11:55:09 PM
+1, or just call. raising is horrible

This against an unknown.


Title: Re: Sunday Mil Madness- KK QJ9 flop
Post by: cambridgealex on July 16, 2012, 12:36:51 AM
Gah, out of all the tournies I've played today, every single tough spot has been in the Mil. Really didn't know what to do here, but it felt bad @ the time

he says with 66 left out of 17k runners in the 2rebuy!


Title: Re: Sunday Mil Madness- KK QJ9 flop
Post by: DMorgan on July 16, 2012, 12:37:58 AM
Raising flop is a disaster but I think folding is a bit too nitty. We have nut outs (given that nobody in this hand has AK) and he can still plausibly have pair+draw hands, AQ that he decided to flat pre and now wants to 'find out where he is'. Calling with the intention of folding to a turn bet though. I think on this board texture he's going to play pretty honest. He'll barrel the hands that you're under it against and check one pair/draws.



Title: Re: Sunday Mil Madness- KK QJ9 flop
Post by: cambridgealex on July 16, 2012, 12:41:42 AM
Raising flop is a disaster but I think folding is a bit too nitty. We have nut outs (given that nobody in this hand has AK) and he can still plausibly have pair+draw hands, AQ that he decided to flat pre and now wants to 'find out where he is'. Calling with the intention of folding to a turn bet though. I think on this board texture he's going to play pretty honest. He'll barrel the hands that you're under it against and check one pair/draws.



agree


Title: Re: Sunday Mil Madness- KK QJ9 flop
Post by: rfgqqabc on July 16, 2012, 12:48:30 AM
Gah, out of all the tournies I've played today, every single tough spot has been in the Mil. Really didn't know what to do here, but it felt bad @ the time

he says with 66 left out of 17k runners in the 2rebuy!

As in, throughout all the tournies i played today, the only hands i had to post were in the MIL. 59th in 2rebuy and 20th in bowl .5e hyper MM on .fr, would like to run fantastic in one tournament, instead of relatively good in a few.


Title: Re: Sunday Mil Madness- KK QJ9 flop
Post by: judgedredd13 on July 16, 2012, 08:35:48 AM
Definately +1 on flatting flop. If we plan to get kk in against his pair/straight draw combos always better to see the turn, see if the card is safe then get it in with better equity v these hands (this is a play id atleast consider). If the turn is a brick say off suit 2 and he checks we have to be feeling pretty nutted about our hand and can confidently start betting for value. Flatting flop keeps his range weaker which has to be a good thing imo. say he check call turn and river is another brick we can shove and rep ak or something and will get heroed here a decent % of time as I guess a ton of players will think we are going to raise his flop donk with overpairs all the time. I think he almost never checks calls a hand better than kk on this board on the turn with this preflop and flop action so I'm feeling pretty good about river jamming. I doubt i fold this hand tbh. I think I just call down and keep his range as wide as possible. As Dan said we have some outs also so were never completely screwed.