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Title: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: pleno1 on July 16, 2012, 06:53:56 PM
Sunday 500 101 left, 99 pay we have 37k and are 67/101.

Blinds are 1k 2k

There are 4 stacks under 5k.

Everyone on my table has 90k except utg1

He has 27k and open to 5k
Hero is utg2 with qq

He seems aggro previously but nothing ool went to sd,


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: pleno1 on July 16, 2012, 06:54:19 PM
Wugwugwug?


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: Ironside on July 16, 2012, 07:18:48 PM
shove and faceplant when he snaps you with airlines then pray you can limp into the money and then go ballistic


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: NigDawG on July 16, 2012, 07:33:32 PM
all in but yeh not loving it


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: youthnkzR on July 16, 2012, 08:15:40 PM
shove and faceplant when he snaps you with airlines then pray you can limp into the money and then go ballistic

all in but yeh not loving it

these both work fine


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: pleno1 on July 16, 2012, 09:40:57 PM
I folded seemed like icm suicide and guy making it 2.5 x felt super strong off small stack. There was also some aggro guys putting pressure on etc and he must have known this.


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: PutYouOnAK/AQ on July 16, 2012, 09:48:58 PM
Why is this suicidal?  If we lose we still have twice as much as 4 short stacks with 2 to the money?
If the shortstacks ha 10k or 15 then its prob a fold.


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: NigDawG on July 16, 2012, 10:29:27 PM
I folded seemed like icm suicide and guy making it 2.5 x felt super strong off small stack. There was also some aggro guys putting pressure on etc and he must have known this.

well we cover 4 shorties even if we lose 2 off the money

and i'd be more worried if he minned than 2.5x this shallow, could just be his std but if it isn't i'd say that takes some weighting away from AA/KK and more towards 99-JJ and AK


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: NigDawG on July 16, 2012, 10:30:21 PM
but yeh he does have a very strong range opening utg+1 off 13.5bb 2 off the money ofc


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: DMorgan on July 16, 2012, 10:46:06 PM
Given that he made it 2.5x and not min I'd be jamming.

If villain mins and is a reg (and therefore is certainly aware of the bubble and what stacks are left) then I think that folding here is good as he'd almost certainly be jamming AK, TT, JJ.


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: pleno1 on July 16, 2012, 10:51:46 PM
There was also 2 guys on other tables with less than 1bb. Should have said I guess.


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: DMorgan on July 17, 2012, 12:20:27 AM
Urgh thats gross, makes me want to fold now


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: shedboymuff on July 17, 2012, 12:26:35 AM
sick spot and prob were I fail most times, I just cant fold here with such a strong hand and such few chips!

Insta shove...


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: EvilPie on July 17, 2012, 12:22:03 PM
Wait 'til your clock runs down to 0 and click it back.

Assuming it gets back round to you either call if it's a shorter stack than you or use your full time bank if it's a shove that covers you.

Hopefully that should just about see you safely in to the cash.


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: DMorgan on July 17, 2012, 12:30:44 PM
Yeah if you tank this all the way down its actually fairly likely that it'll go hand for hand anyway.

Who am I kidding, million to actually fold this in game


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: pleno1 on July 17, 2012, 12:36:29 PM
yeh the fact that i cover him means i should get it in i think. there were 8 left to act behind us and felt like i was burning equity by getting it in here when guaranteed a cash, but doubling is definitely important too.

i folded, mp1 3bet and OR folded.


Title: Re: Pleno1 a nit? Neverrrr
Post by: prettygreen on July 17, 2012, 03:35:31 PM
If i lost a leg and a min cash meant i could buy it back, fix it back on and be normal again, i would still be allin here.