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Title: Standard hand, plan on turn
Post by: MC on July 20, 2012, 06:58:47 AM
18-man SNG.

Villain is a bad fish.

Stack size a little tricky on the turn.

Do we...

Bet/call
Bet/fold
Check?

Plan for river if we get there?


PokerStars Hand #83580133286: Tournament #589784871, $55.56+$4.44 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2012/07/20 6:49:33 WET [2012/07/20 1:49:33 ET]
Table '589784871 2' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: wellnobre (2850 in chips)
Seat 2: davin4a (1495 in chips)
Seat 4: geoserp (2615 in chips)
Seat 5: ambaal84 (920 in chips)
Seat 6: Marko586 (1110 in chips)
Seat 7: epitomised (1470 in chips)
Seat 8: bukithepro (1470 in chips)
Seat 9: OverTheTop43 (1570 in chips)
ambaal84: posts small blind 15
Marko586: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to epitomised [Ad Kc]
epitomised: raises 60 to 90
bukithepro: folds
OverTheTop43: folds
wellnobre: folds
davin4a: folds
geoserp: folds
ambaal84: calls 75
Marko586: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ts 5h Kh]
ambaal84: checks
epitomised: bets 120
ambaal84: calls 120
*** TURN *** [Ts 5h Kh] [9s]
ambaal84: checks
epitomised:


Title: Re: Standard hand, plan on turn
Post by: George2Loose on July 20, 2012, 09:03:40 AM
Think this early I check back. Bet/folding being option 2


Title: Re: Standard hand, plan on turn
Post by: pleno1 on July 20, 2012, 09:30:36 AM
199/fold


Title: Re: Standard hand, plan on turn
Post by: TL900 on July 20, 2012, 09:42:37 AM
think i prefer b/f to checking back just because I think when he c/shoves were always behind. We can get called by worse while charging alot of draws and valuebet certain rivers.

Think bet/calling is pretty bad.


Title: Re: Standard hand, plan on turn
Post by: mondatoo on July 20, 2012, 05:18:49 PM
B/c, he's a fish, unless he's a nitty bad fish then we lose to K9/T9 and QJ, lolz if he has 99. Ton of 1pr + draw hands he will over play on turn.


Title: Re: Standard hand, plan on turn
Post by: mondatoo on July 20, 2012, 05:28:23 PM
Obv not loving it btw, but it's a sng, fish in these spaz off loads as you know, you're going to be wrong a lot b/f here.

Not sure how different 18's play to 180's early on but think it's a mistake to b/f vs fish if they're the same.


Title: Re: Standard hand, plan on turn
Post by: muckthenuts on July 20, 2012, 06:00:47 PM
B/c, he's a fish, unless he's a nitty bad fish then we lose to K9/T9 and QJ, lolz if he has 99. Ton of 1pr + draw hands he will over play on turn.

Yeah this is actually what i was thinking and would be the line i take. I think it just comes from my own experience really, the postflop plays of fish in sngs are just terrible and would expect you can safely profitably b/c AK here.


Title: Re: Standard hand, plan on turn
Post by: MC on July 20, 2012, 06:47:57 PM
B/c, he's a fish, unless he's a nitty bad fish then we lose to K9/T9 and QJ, lolz if he has 99. Ton of 1pr + draw hands he will over play on turn.

Obv not loving it btw, but it's a sng, fish in these spaz off loads as you know, you're going to be wrong a lot b/f here.

Not sure how different 18's play to 180's early on but think it's a mistake to b/f vs fish if they're the same.

B/c, he's a fish, unless he's a nitty bad fish then we lose to K9/T9 and QJ, lolz if he has 99. Ton of 1pr + draw hands he will over play on turn.

Yeah this is actually what i was thinking and would be the line i take. I think it just comes from my own experience really, the postflop plays of fish in sngs are just terrible and would expect you can safely profitably b/c AK here.

Yeah, this was my thinking as I was playing the hand. I nearly checked back, then I decided to bet/call, as I thought he might rejam as light as J9/Q9 or hands like that.

I think his stack size helped dictate this decision though, would have a harder time doing it if he was full stacked I think.

I just wasn't sure of the line. Sort of glad to see a dispute between all 3 options, thought I might have been posting up a really basic hand but it did feel like a tricky decision at the time.