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Title: it always fucking comes
Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2012, 12:37:14 AM
guy likes to out pressure on

im 5/12, he's 1/12.

he weirdly will see me as nitty

Seat 1: iLandkos (23450 in chips)
Seat 2: Zimmy86 (125939 in chips)
Seat 4: Tarobeagle (42967 in chips)
Seat 5: pads1161 (80674 in chips)
Seat 6: Dennis2410 (31571 in chips)
iLandkos: posts the ante 175
Zimmy86: posts the ante 175
Tarobeagle: posts the ante 175
pads1161: posts the ante 175
Dennis2410: posts the ante 175
iLandkos: posts small blind 750
Zimmy86: posts big blind 1500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [Ks Kd]
Tarobeagle: folds
pads1161: raises 1500 to 3000
Dennis2410: folds
iLandkos: calls 2250
Zimmy86: raises 7500 to 10500
pads1161: raises 8499 to 18999
iLandkos: folds
Zimmy86: calls 8499
*** FLOP *** [9d 3s As]
Zimmy86: checks
pads1161:


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: prettygreen on July 22, 2012, 01:28:46 PM
15,550/F is my line here.

Can't see how he can come over the top on flop without it.


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 22, 2012, 06:55:16 PM
I would be more likely to think you're losing if he calls than if he raises tbh.

I would expect to get raised pretty infrequently sepshly with the Ks in your hand. He could have AQ for sure but I think we've got to assume he will 5bet AK, agree i'd just bet 15-18k or something and likely check the turn back, if he then bets the river (which he neveer should imo) then i'd fold. depending ofc, on the run out


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: AlexMartin on July 22, 2012, 08:24:13 PM
6k




Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: PizzicatoXev on July 23, 2012, 04:26:09 AM
What buyin level?

Any more info on Villain?

From what little you have said though I would be inclined to check back to induce pressure on the turn and possibly river...


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: youthnkzR on July 23, 2012, 11:45:46 AM
I would be more likely to think you're losing if he calls than if he raises tbh.

I would expect to get raised pretty infrequently sepshly with the Ks in your hand. He could have AQ for sure but I think we've got to assume he will 5bet AK, agree i'd just bet 15-18k or something and likely check the turn back, if he then bets the river (which he neveer should imo) then i'd fold. depending ofc, on the run out

this man speaks sense


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: LFmagic on August 03, 2012, 11:11:26 AM
I think he can find the balls to check raise bluff the flop v us but if we snap check back I think he's going to be real weary of betting the turn anyway as we look pretty strong and even if he thinks we have say KK-TT I doubt  he'll dust us what will still be a large % of his stack by barrelling 2 streets v us. If he checks turn to us I think we can snap check back again and potentially make a big call down or fold on the end if he finds a bet. I really don't think he will do it that often but he's certainly going to peel a small4 a ton after a failed 3squeeze with paint cards to try and outflop you for sure, classic leak of the big stack. Another option is to flat pre ofc but if you have a light 4 range here at all then 4ing is fine.


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: Pugwashed on August 06, 2012, 05:49:04 PM
I'd probably just bet without knowing anything about the villain other than he's a reg, I don't think you get c/r very often on the flop (or shouldn't be anyway). If I had some reads I'd be much happier checking back and playing turn and river with a capped range


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: action man on August 10, 2012, 09:36:30 AM
It feels like checking back makes full advantage of your position in the hand. Its pretty unlikely Zimmy has an ace in this spot imo but he does like to take off a lot. Check prob makes it easier to play and once you check back it indicates to him that you have good showdown already so id proceed to peel one and prob fold to two.


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: pleno1 on August 10, 2012, 10:26:52 AM
this guy cant be good trigg can he? the actual results in hand are hilar.


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: action man on August 10, 2012, 02:10:25 PM
he binked an ept, he's not afraid of putting chips in the middle, ill say that much.


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: pleno1 on August 10, 2012, 03:44:17 PM
results, he called flop. c/minr turn and min bet river with qq


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: rfgqqabc on August 10, 2012, 04:08:54 PM
results, he called flop. c/minr turn and min bet river with qq

What you bet otf?


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: cambridgealex on August 10, 2012, 06:00:40 PM
you bet turn as well pads?


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: pleno1 on August 10, 2012, 06:13:08 PM
you bet turn as well pads?

yeh bet again


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: George2Loose on August 10, 2012, 06:15:25 PM
you bet turn as well pads?

yeh bet again

Why?


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: pleno1 on August 10, 2012, 06:19:31 PM
value vs his pocket pairs/draws, don't think he has man ax played like this.


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: George2Loose on August 10, 2012, 06:21:16 PM
value vs his pocket pairs/draws, don't think he has man ax played like this.

Are you barrelling river too?

Do you usually try and get 3 streets here due to your image?


Title: Re: it always fucking comes
Post by: pleno1 on August 10, 2012, 06:33:41 PM
yeh i try and get 3 streets in similar spots, but usually when the board is xxx a x , i once heard about brammer doing it and value jamming KK otr and its very successful since.

im basically trying to buy my showdown/induce/thin value ott. he clicked it back though lol, was so so weird.