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Title: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: JK on July 22, 2012, 06:58:24 PM
PokerStars Hand #83695066591: Tournament #2012070097, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (20/40) - 2012/07/22 18:48:47 WET [2012/07/22 13:48:47 ET]
Table '2012070097 337' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: lipaonline (4910 in chips)
Seat 2: yealk (5270 in chips)
Seat 3: Nty9Problems (4760 in chips)
Seat 4: SC72A (4990 in chips)
Seat 5: Jamie_Kay0 (4140 in chips)
Seat 6: Finin55 (5820 in chips)
Seat 7: BVRMS (5340 in chips)
Seat 8: Gurkebrot (5480 in chips)
Seat 9: KOPERFACE888 (4290 in chips)
BVRMS: posts small blind 20
Gurkebrot: posts big blind 40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jamie_Kay0 [5s 5c]
KOPERFACE888: folds
lipaonline: folds
yealk: calls 40
Nty9Problems: folds
SC72A: folds
Jamie_Kay0: calls 40
Finin55: folds
BVRMS: calls 20
Gurkebrot: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qd 5d Qh]
BVRMS: checks
Gurkebrot: checks
yealk: checks
Jamie_Kay0: checks
*** TURN *** [Qd 5d Qh] [Ac]
BVRMS: checks
Gurkebrot: checks
yealk: bets 80
Jamie_Kay0: calls 80
BVRMS: folds
Gurkebrot: folds
*** RIVER *** [Qd 5d Qh Ac] [6d]
yealk: bets 240
Jamie_Kay0: raises 360 to 600
yealk: raises 720 to 1320
Jamie_Kay0: ?

Unknown opponent so assuming he can take this line with Qx, of which, he pretty much cant have Q5, Q6 unlikely. Just seemed at the time like we HAVE to go broke? Probably just 50p but should we be flatting the 3b?


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2012, 07:04:33 PM
defintiely not! get more chips in asap. its a $10.


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: JK on July 22, 2012, 07:06:55 PM
defintiely not! get more chips in asap. its a $10.

All I needed mate. Tyty. 50p to the box


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2012, 07:08:34 PM
specially as there is 40k runners or wte.

chip accumulation ftw.


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: AlexMartin on July 22, 2012, 08:25:55 PM
what? river is a fold




Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: JK on July 22, 2012, 08:36:23 PM
what? river is a fold




Now this is more of what I wanted ^.^. Could you expand please Mr Martin sir?


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2012, 08:41:05 PM
what? river is a fold




mate, in these $10 comps on Sunday you see peoplem with the most ABSURD hands in all possible spots.


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: TL900 on July 22, 2012, 08:48:42 PM
get more chips in asap.

pot pot pot, people do not fold in this tournament


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: JK on July 22, 2012, 08:55:01 PM
FWIW, I pretty much agree that here its a get in. However, I defo wouldnt get this in vs good oppos, of which Im sure there are alot of in this crapshoot


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: TL900 on July 22, 2012, 08:56:17 PM
agreed, but readless you just gota be goin for it all imo :) if a good reg does this it becomes a fold


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: rfgqqabc on July 22, 2012, 09:02:38 PM
if we misclick :)

agree about competent opps too


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2012, 09:03:08 PM
Im sure there are alot of in this crapshoot

really? % wise what do you think?


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: JK on July 22, 2012, 09:05:31 PM
Im sure there are alot of in this crapshoot

really? % wise what do you think?

Just think how many regs there are online on a sunday, EVERY single one of them will be playing this. I know its ridic small amount compared to field size, but theyre still there.

As it turns out, the guys a goon


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2012, 09:32:19 PM
disagree that all regs play it, but would say that the oens who do include it will spaz about ALOT, and wont be folidng flushes here.


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: TL900 on July 22, 2012, 09:39:52 PM
on an average night of say 30k runners u prob got 3k regs/winning players and 27k droolers


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: JK on July 22, 2012, 09:44:45 PM
on an average night of say 30k runners u prob got 3k regs/winning players and 27k droolers

Was thinking theres probably 1 at every table, but thought that was a bit generous


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2012, 09:50:57 PM
on an average night of say 30k runners u prob got 3k regs/winning players and 27k droolers

yeh agree with that


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: titaniumbean on July 22, 2012, 10:08:53 PM
what? river is a fold




mate, in these $10 comps on Sunday you see peoplem with the most ABSURD hands in all possible spots.


ya which means we should bet flop and put chips in the pot.


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: DMorgan on July 22, 2012, 10:20:59 PM
Before you worry about what to do on the river the best way to increase your expectation in this hand is to bet the flop.

I'm leading if I'm first to act fwiw, definitely definitely need to bet.


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: prettygreen on July 22, 2012, 10:34:42 PM
Looks like aces to me? Probs flat river though incase of flush.


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2012, 10:59:21 PM
oh yeh, didnt see bet flop.


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: JK on July 22, 2012, 11:20:45 PM
Yeah checking flop was bad. Was interested in whole hand, just thought river was a strange spot


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: cambridgealex on July 22, 2012, 11:33:59 PM
never ever check this flop. why on earth would we check this?

raise the turn obv. why aren't we getting more chips in here? full house no?


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2012, 11:41:45 PM
john+patrick p2!


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: cambridgealex on July 22, 2012, 11:50:02 PM
john+patrick p2!

:D


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: stato_1 on July 23, 2012, 12:05:42 AM
Pretty sick unlucky to misclick on 2 consecutive streets (flop and turn). Would your mouse not scroll to the right?!!!

incase you havent got my underlying message there:

BET THE FLOP

and

RAISE THE TURN


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: cambridgealex on July 23, 2012, 12:08:33 AM
I've noticed you do this a lot Jamie. Let's try a different approach and see how it works out. Can always revert back if unsuccessful of course.


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: JK on July 23, 2012, 01:07:10 AM
Yeah completely agree. Will definately play alot faster and see what happens.

Stato_1: 1
JK: 0


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: mondatoo on July 23, 2012, 03:54:40 AM
what? river is a fold




How could we take this absurd line and then ever consider folding river ?


Title: Re: Do we flat a house here? $11 Sunday Storm Special
Post by: PizzicatoXev on July 23, 2012, 04:23:34 AM
Raising pre is fine as well...

As regards the rest of the hand... Stato coulda used a larger font and maybe colour it red for extra effect :)