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Title: Final 18/9 Two spots to wager the maximum?
Post by: rfgqqabc on July 22, 2012, 11:39:19 PM
http://weaktight.com/4866634
Seemed tight and ok, ive been pretty nitty not been up to much. Chances he wants to stack off? Not sure how much i like it cos when called probs pretty bad shape but got to get a lot of folds imo

http://weaktight.com/4866678

FT- seen guy peel 2nd to last table, does not seem very good. Big jam, but we have overs/backdoors and again, shit ton of f/e

Left results in so you can see what i did in-game, thoughts on the two? Don't have prizepool but standard stars structure. 1.8k up top/1.4/950/700 etc etc.

Did not OPR in game


Title: Re: Final 18/9 Two spots to wager the maximum?
Post by: rfgqqabc on July 23, 2012, 01:21:29 AM
General consensus: 1st; ICM fold, probs folding AJ and maybe more.
2nd: fine as played, no need to jam. Anyone disagree?


Title: Re: Final 18/9 Two spots to wager the maximum?
Post by: the rage on July 26, 2012, 01:55:55 AM
Just having a stab.
First hand. I think it comes down to your reads / stats on the raiser, who you say is tight. I think it's close either way. Dont mind the shove, but really dont mind the fold pre either.
Second hand. Again, i think this one is quite close, but i like the way that you played this hand. I also think that the next best option is fold pre on this one too.
Verdict: Both hands played fine, but not hating folding pre in both hands.


Title: Re: Final 18/9 Two spots to wager the maximum?
Post by: DMorgan on July 26, 2012, 03:21:21 AM
Both are pretty big spew to jam imo

First one if he isn't very active his raising range just has you pretty crushed, second one its extremely optimistic to give him bluffs here imo, especially in a spot where you can get it in vs ace high and have 4 outs.


Title: Re: Final 18/9 Two spots to wager the maximum?
Post by: the rage on July 26, 2012, 04:16:42 AM
Both are pretty big spew to jam imo

First one if he isn't very active his raising range just has you pretty crushed, second one its extremely optimistic to give him bluffs here imo, especially in a spot where you can get it in vs ace high and have 4 outs.

I pretty much agree with this, but, i do beleive that if villian is tight, but still reasonably active pre flop it's quite close. I'm pretty new to HEM and still trying to learn how best to interpret stats, so was wondering whether they could help to influence our decision here.
 I was also thinking that by shoving, against a tight opponent, we get him to fold a big percentage of his opening range (55%) including many hands that  we would flip with. Obviously, we're in bad shape most of the time when called, but i think that we have a decent amount of fold equity (usually). I gave villian an opening range of 13.1%, of which he would fold 7.2%.


Title: Re: Final 18/9 Two spots to wager the maximum?
Post by: PizzicatoXev on July 26, 2012, 04:49:02 AM
Fold pre in both hands...

I am 99% certain you left out a very important piece of info that this is a turbo tournament...


Title: Re: Final 18/9 Two spots to wager the maximum?
Post by: TL900 on July 26, 2012, 08:40:45 AM
Fold pre in both hands...



Title: Re: Final 18/9 Two spots to wager the maximum?
Post by: rfgqqabc on July 26, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
Fold pre in both hands...

I am 99% certain you left out a very important piece of info that this is a turbo tournament...

Yes turbo and agree with both.