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Hi Guys,

Strange one i guess but i after trying to sort out my lack of Multi tabling skills and wondered if any Blonde member might allow me to rail them either via Mikogo/Teamview or the like or in fact travel to them to rail  which would obv be the nuts.

To improve i know i need to play more tables but truthfully any more than 2/3 and i am up shit creek which i know is ludicrous given the amount of time i have been playing.  I am obviously doing something wrong hence my desire to watch some one in action.  I did have a guy that used to let me rail him from the  US but he is not on any more, he played 12/16 tables and it looked to me like a button clicking frenzy which is mental because when i spoke to him about certain spots he spoke with confidence about reads and the like...  i couldn't see how it was possible but he was a good bloke who was winning so i assume he was not full of it.

I am a prolific railer, peeps like Mark wright, Chillin dude and the like and they always seem to have time on the ball. I have read up a lot on multi tabling,  quick decisions, table ninja, HEM ect but its more the pace of the action that  i can't keep up with, i feel that age is one issue ( i am about 100 compared to most of you ), skill obv, but i feel i should be able to play 6/8 tables with out clicking aimlessly in a blind panic.

So guys any one  up for it?  I live in Gravesend and am willing to travel a couple of hrs if needs be?  Happy to pay a little, buy a meal or the like.

In the short term i am going to play some  cheap tourneys to pract with more tables.


Regards


Steve

Multitabling low stakes online is all about having good fundamental poker knowledge/awareness. Along with the experience, i.e number of hands or number of tournaments. It just takes practice and you get used to it. I would suggest playing like 8 $2 180 mans or something to try and get used to it. You slowly build up knowledge and similarities between certain situations and this makes making the optimal decision a quicker process. I'm normally pretty happy for friends to mikogo/teamviewer me who know me/about my game, but I don't think you would get much out of watching me grind as you would think it was button mashing, otherwise I would offer. gl sir.

Can fly to gib to watch if you like :D

LOl Pleno, donnttttttttttttttttttttttt  tempt me,  i served in Gibraltar for 2 years as  the Team Staff Sergeant of the Royal  Engineers,  lived down at Europa point :)  small world.

Thanks for the reply, i guess if i watch any multi table player Via Mikago i am always goner see the same as i have always seen. Hmmmmmmmm 

Cheers


Steve

experience >>>>>>>>>>> talking to people about poker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watching people imo

Yeah, not sure what there is to gain from watching someone else - all you'll see is someone clicking buttons quicker than you do.

Just add one more table to your usual number and when you're comfortable with that, add another one and repeat.

This is a real eye opener tho. I shared an apartment with some online geeky friends up in Edinburgh and watched one French kid playing 24 tables on a lap top. Learnt f@@k all except it's sad being French

Thanks for all the replies guys, i guess watching some one live i can ask questions, French not so good so prob try to avoid that one.

can watch anytime

as long as u spell my name right from now on ;-)

There are multiple reasons why some people are quicker than others

it helps to have add/attention span issues to watch as much of the screen as once
helps to have played alot of computer games and be extremely accurate/quick with the mouse
helps to have played tonnes and tonnes of the same situations so you know what you're doing instantly.


practice makes perfect.

Opps  school boy error  :(  soz

Marc Wright obvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv    the daft thing is my son's name Marc, is spelt with a C too so i shouldn't have missed that one.   Marc i obv do rail you alot but are you offering to let me Rail you live ?
Steve

Yeh why not. Not live, but I'd let you team viewer me one night.

First few questions that spring to mind:

How old are you? (I'd basically never expect anyone under 30 to have this problem)

What computer/laptop do you use? Mouse/Touchpad etc?

What site / sites do you play on?

What games do you play?

How good are you in general with computers?

Cool thanks Alex will PM you.

Steve

Hi,

I am 53

Play on Stars  Micro and Low  MTT,  prefare RB's

Pc Knowledge , used to be classed as PC literate in the day, so have a working knowledege.

PC New one decent spec. mouse, 23"  screen

Steve

yeh can rail on teamviewer / skype screen share or w.e

cool will PM you.

Cheers

Doh on  a side note  i loaded 4 Micros tournies ,  yes i know massive volume, but tiny steps, cashed in 3 and just missed FT  in one of them.

i probably swim against the tide but the thought of playing any more than 2 or 3 tables at once (especially 20 odd) seems to border on the obsessive side...never forget we all want to win at poker but you will only ever feel good about your game if you can enjoy it...and playing that many tables there can be no enjoyment surely.

don't even go there...leave it to the crazy fools who will tell you they win all the time.

when ever i have seen someone timing out constantly or shoving every big hand they are normally playing lots at once...shove fest.

I learned to mt from watching someone else. made a difference to me!

I say dont panic! you always have more time than you think you do. Fold as soon as you know its a fold and move onto the next one.

If youre playing micros comps and sngs on stars you should think about table ninja. takes away a lot of the legwork. Opens tables for you and even prepares an expected bet size.

Playing lots of tables just takes practice and experience, it is not something that can be taught per se.

The majority of people just learn from gradually adding 1 or 2 tables at a time, but most importantly you should be able make accurate, solid decisions quickly. To be able to do this you have to work on your game and gain experience of common situations.

Everyone has different thresholds and you will eventually reach a point where you simply can't process the information quickly enough to come to the right conclusion.

Without wishing to be offensive, at your age that is going to be more difficult than someone in their late teens/early 20's. The brain simply doesn't work as quickly the older you get. I know some of the younger people on here, would outperfom me in this respect.

There are various software than can help you out here, the most obvious being table ninja. What software do you use?

Less time in chat = more time to concentrate on other tables  ;)

Geo

mutli tablign is defo something that takes practice. When i started online i couldnt play 4 properly, but now i can play up to about 30, with skype, msn and music going... plus the occasional chat rant ;-)

Yes, cos you're a monster Marc. You've studied, learnt and progressed to get to the level you have achieved and it's all second nature to you. Steve admits to struggling to multi table but willing to have someone help him improve.

If you can start with one of the best all the better so it's good he has your offer.

It was a wee bit ribbing as Steve and I railed each other at times through the MM series.

Geo

this open to anyone?  ::)

yeh i dont mind people watching, but its a bit laggy if more than one person at once

I learnt to multi table playing play money. Really good way to start as it doesnt matter if you mess up

Funnily enough, i chat when bored and then only if something has tickled me and set me of. 

I do so agree with this and i think its a part of my problem, i do want to think things through, and sometimes can barely remember my or previous other action unless i am focused, and that is with 2/3 tables, hence my amazement at how players mass table.

Hi Longy,

I only have HEM which i use poorly.  I take no offense at the age thing i think it is 100% a factor.

Thank you all again guys for the pointers.   I don't think i want to mass MT as i quite frankly don't enjoy the button clicking, maybe i should get comfortable at 4 with an aim of getting to 8. If i am not enjoying it i will play only to a point i am.

Steve

Most, if not all of the people that are playing 20+ tables are doing so to make a living so there isn't much consideration to the enjoyment factor.

I'd be very suprised if I can still play 20+ tables when I'm 50+, FML when I have to get a real job :(

As said just keep adding 1-2 when you get comfortable playing the current amount, if you're just looking to play as a hobby though I don't think you should be looking to play 10+ tables anyway as that will soon take most of the fun out of it.

agree with mondatoo above.

Its about finding your own personal niche. I enjoy mass tabling and after 6/7 hours of play i might have 4 or 5 stacks to concentrate on. Others might only play 10 comps a night but can put more concentration into them.
Maybe add 2 tables per session untill you reach the point of struggle. As i said, your welcome to teamview or screen share me and see what im doing if you feel it will benefit you.

let me know when you wouldnt mind flickin TV on plz marc. Add me on skype or summat or PM me, cheers.

Yes i play for fun but who doesn't like to win a few $$$  ask the wife who has a new fridge freezer thanks to pokerstars and the Sunday storm.  ( That purchase probably sums me up to a T )  I do have a proper full time job, but one of the advantages of this time of life is most of my real life situations are in order, good job, stable life, kids left home, lovely Grand kids etc, so i do have lots of free time and i chose to spend some of it on poker.  But i do try to work at it and keep up with changes and know i should be better than i am, hence trying to up the MT  a little.

I enjoy this community and the help it gives to all, thanks again and keep up the good work.

Steve

PM sent

PM sent

Thanks for letting me Rail you on your Sunday grind, superb experience for a micro grinder so see one of the best doing the biz, sorrry i couldn't make Monday nite, maybe try again in the week, thanks again Marc.


Steve

havent forgotton about this, didnt play at all over the weekend, will let you know when I do next.

Cheers mate, i know the offer is still good, only when it is best for you though, i will keep an eye on Pm's ect.

Steve