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I played a hand last night which is still bugging me so would like some opinions.

The tournament is a £10k guarantee with £100 buy-in at my favourite Walsall Grosvenor casino. You start with 11k in chips on a 30 mins clock. They run some £5 sats for the comp so it's pretty soft. My experience of this event is that it's fishy with randoms falling in love with any ace and calling all three streets so bluffing is generally out of the question early and bet sizing is all over the place.

It's about two rounds in at 25/50 and I'm yet to play a hand. Random villain raises to 300 from mp and it's folded around to me in bb. I look down at  Ahrt Kh and default flat. Later on I would raise but early on I always call. Thoughts about that line pls?

 Ad  Jh 3d

I check to villain who bets 500 and then I raise to 1300. Villain calls.

  Td

What's the best strat here pls?

why did u raise flop?

you are always having a dig at mantis :)

i would have played it by calling pre, calling flop, assessing turn and if he bets 3/4 or higher of the pot i am assuming he has two pair AJ/A10 or QK, or has made a possible flush. As he must know you have connected nicely with the flop for you to have called. If he checks back the turn then you may be in with a shout to lay a nice value bet on the river and if he re raises that you are probably in trouble.

hes asking something constructive, i.e finding out reasons for doing something and I assume will give advice later why its wrong/not optimal.

Can you just leave one thread alone without trying to cause arguments? Seriously, its extremely annoying and just makes the whole place a worse place to be.

stop being so serious just coz i wanked it into you. they both know its a joke that they both will appreciate and i even put a smiley.

if you want me to leon knight your arse carry on.

Pretty much for value. In the early stages qualifiers burn chips by calling with third pair or because they think you're 'at it'. I sit there and see the people limp for 50 and call 600 without blinking an eye. Also, the guy called a cr before wit 9-9 on a AQ3 board.

btw np herbie I lolled, but what about the hand??

yeah so did cos....never read pha coz i just confuse people as well as myself :)

edit. i always read it. i have some sort of ocd that has to read every post here. i just never like to comment.

If you play trappy pre, does it not make sense to check-call flop, evaluate turn?

You have a choice to play a big pot pre, you choose to small ball then change engines post flop?


(apologies if this is crap, just imo!)

pre definitely isn't trappy imo, I would call here, if we 3bet and get 4bet life sucks and he has 6x'd pre.

on the flop, i would continue to just call, our hand is only a bluff catcher here, inflating the pot is n't going to be a great idea.

i think turn is a pretty easy c/f

No no happy to accept I muffed up the hand. Building a pot when the qualifiers are splashing around seemed like a good idea.

but the flop is quite draw heavy

Call flop, build on turn if its blank-ish?

Raising flop is good and better than calling. Check fold now, really bad card.

I played this comp yesterday (don't think I was the Villain in this one lol) for the first time.

I wouldn't worry about what Villain thinks you have when you have made your action on the flop. I didn't get the impression that this was a key feature of the analysis of the majority of players there.

If the Villain is still firing when the scare card comes, in this sort of comp, I'd lean towards fold. Plenty of spots to pick up chips from the next hand onwards. Agree with pleno1's analysis.

I hadn't realised so many people had qualified through a sat. Would def play the comp again, although I found the amount of angry exchanges, criticism and angle shooting eye-rollingly irksome.

I'm sure none of it you, Mantis. Tikay speaks so highly of you.  :)

Zomg, mantis actually playing poker!

If you're right about him calling any old shit on the flop, bet again on the turn for value and fold to a raise.

Thoughts on what his 6x range is pre? Was this pretty standard at the table or was he limping/raising smaller too?

200bbs deep OOP I think call > 3bet but I think c/c or c/r flop is actually pretty close vs described villain. I think I'd lean towards c/r though given that he isn't folding any piece and when you raise this flop he is probably gunna play pretty honest (i.e. never going to turn worse Ax/Jx/gutters into bluffs on diamonds so I don't think we're going to have to worry about folding the best hand on turn or river.

The plan was to c/r bet/fold bet/fold but this is probably the nut worst turn card. Given how wide we can expect his flop bet/call range to be I don't think its a complete disaster card and I'd probably still bet to get value from pairs/gutters that turned a diamond draw with the intention of c/folding all rivers bar Ax and obviously offsuit Qx.

If villain was competent then I'd agree that c/c c/f would be best but given the information that we have, we can expect that he can tool out pretty hard. I'm definitely of the opinion that vs these players you should be looking to take the most exploitative lines possible and I think that its more likely that he'll make big mistakes calling too light here rather than barrelling this board with a range that we can bluffcatch against.

He has played almost every hand since we started so has a wide range. He would 6x every open. Post flop he bets when strong and shows his hand, has called light, but just took down 3 out of last 4 pots so dominating. Staring at me hard during this hand and seems to want the rush to continue.

Pot is 3,200 and I bet 1,800.

Villain calls pretty quickly.

River is  Kc

So the board is  Ad Jh 3d Td Kc

What is the nut best option in this spot vs this player please, is it c/f, c/c or b/f?

Definitely wouldn't c/c because he just doesn't have any air in his range at this point. Sounds like the kinda guy that would put the cape on so you could make an argument for bet/folding. I doubt you're going to induce him to turn hands into bluffs with a smaller sizing so you could bet like 1400 and hope he sighs and flicks it in with 2 pair. Its pretty thin though. Standard would be to c/f.