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Title: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: pleno1 on August 06, 2012, 12:44:27 AM
Sunday 530, I jsut moved table, played 5/5 hands, all legit but didnt go to showdown..

Seat 2: Milana Jones (24126 in chips)
Seat 3: nadalon (43506 in chips)
Seat 4: krakukra (16460 in chips)
Seat 5: pads1161 (62994 in chips)
Seat 6: madsamot (19682 in chips)
Seat 7: bor030rahc8 (27311 in chips)
Seat 8: alig8or (31914 in chips)
Seat 9: AaronBeen (15407 in chips)
Milana Jones: posts the ante 60
nadalon: posts the ante 60
krakukra: posts the ante 60
pads1161: posts the ante 60
madsamot: posts the ante 60
bor030rahc8: posts the ante 60
alig8or: posts the ante 60
AaronBeen: posts the ante 60
Milana Jones: posts small blind 300
nadalon: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [x x]
krakukra: folds
pads1161: raises 600 to 1200
madsamot: folds
bor030rahc8: folds
alig8or: calls 1200
AaronBeen: folds
Milana Jones: raises 22866 to 24066 and is all-in

What do we call here?

1st ) good reg?

2nd ) sataliter?

Whats our range?


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: rfgqqabc on August 06, 2012, 12:46:26 AM
1) Double check OPR two or three times, then hit call with QQ+

2) KK+


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: jezza777 on August 06, 2012, 01:02:03 AM
We can call fairly liberally v a reg IMO maybe aq+?
V a sat player calling qq thinking about jj


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: pleno1 on August 06, 2012, 01:10:52 AM
1) Double check OPR two or three times, then hit call with QQ+

2) KK+

nice image post bro


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: rfgqqabc on August 06, 2012, 01:18:05 AM
1) Double check OPR two or three times, then hit call with QQ+

2) KK+

nice image post bro

Once folded TT on AcTc6QcQ for less than 600 bigs too. Everyone at the table said best fold I've ever seen. I went outside wanting to die, and best mate literally lols in my face having just arrived. Hopefully my made up spewy hand histories will prove fruitful some day.


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: TL900 on August 06, 2012, 02:17:17 AM
I cant think of a single hand a good reg is gona do this with so it seems pretty hard to range.

Vs a random im prob calling QQ+ AK

edit : maybe JJ+ defo not AQ though


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: pleno1 on August 06, 2012, 09:15:00 AM
Extra info.

Guy has won 200k this year.

He likpe cut off with aa. Check back 1032 called 9 turn and b/c all in on 2 river 5.5k then called 23k more vs bb


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: rbolt2 on August 06, 2012, 04:56:41 PM
lately when i have seen guys do this it was ak every time, not based on much of a sample, but meh. and mainly with crap players who are scared that they wont hit the flop.


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: silverslick on August 07, 2012, 01:47:04 PM
There is nearly 3000 in the pot so the shove adds more than 10% to his stack. He could definitly play mid pairs this way looking to take the pot down without a flop or just squeezing to steal. He is against someone who has played 5 hands in a row so a wide range and a player who has just called. Neither look that strong. It also a different way to play a strong hand to induce a light call. My range here is QQ+ AK+ without a strong read.


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: Junior Senior on August 07, 2012, 07:25:10 PM
Not calling too light in this spot at all. Against the reg I call AK and JJ+ probs tighter than that vs. satty.
You already built a stack, this dents it significantly and he has shoved 40 bigs


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: T_Mar on August 07, 2012, 10:11:08 PM
dont play these stakes, but looks pretty weak to me, and reckon mid pairs and big Ax hands could be in his range - would call wider than has been suggested so far..


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: TommyD on August 08, 2012, 01:29:26 AM
Sigh, I think I'm playing too wide having now read the other responses.

My initial response to OP is

a)  99+, AQ+

b)  JJ+

My probably screwed up thinking is that a good reg will be shipping a healthy range with that extra flat in the pot when you compare what's in there to their stack.  I still cap their range to exclude the very top with the overbet as we have no history we are aware of to suggest we stack off light enough in their eyes to make overbetting the very top end more profitable than 3betting smaller.

B has a tighter range as in these instances it always seems the player has a mid pair (7s to 9s) or more often AK.


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: TL900 on August 08, 2012, 02:46:30 AM
a good reg is never showing up with 77-TT here. never ever.


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: WotRTheChances on August 08, 2012, 10:44:55 PM
a good reg is never shoving 40bb here. never ever.

FYP.

Don't care how much money he has won, this is either bad or terrible... you decide. I probs just call off AK, QQ+. JJ is a puke, TT seems like a clear fold, as does AQ.


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: action man on August 10, 2012, 09:29:30 AM
Sigh, I think I'm playing too wide having now read the other responses.

My initial response to OP is

a)  99+, AQ+

b)  JJ+

My probably screwed up thinking is that a good reg will be shipping a healthy range with that extra flat in the pot when you compare what's in there to their stack.  I still cap their range to exclude the very top with the overbet as we have no history we are aware of to suggest we stack off light enough in their eyes to make overbetting the very top end more profitable than 3betting smaller.

B has a tighter range as in these instances it always seems the player has a mid pair (7s to 9s) or more often AK.


calling 99 in this spot is so so terrible

pretty much calling QQ+ and folding AK


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: LFmagic on August 13, 2012, 11:10:34 AM
JJ+, AK.


Title: Re: spot I always play wrong lol
Post by: action man on August 13, 2012, 12:04:47 PM
you ever see him turn AQ over here luke?